Sound Stage and Imaging


I love speakers who 'paint a big picture' (I am literally closing my eyes and trying to SEE a picture). Therefore I THINK I like to see IMAGING and BIG SOUND STAGE. And also like DYNAMICS.

Being frugal (just not willing to spent audiophile level money on it), I love to persuit 'bang for buck' solutions in general.

With above goals in mind for a speaker: what hits the marks in the low fi (audiphile scale) $2k (used or new) budget range. (I have 2 setups: one HUGE room, one 20x20).

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@mahgister "...imaging is NEVER achieved by luck or haphazard owners actions , but by acoustic good conditions and gear synergy for sure ..."

Are you speaking about image as a holographic or two dimensional ?

 

 

Imaging is the soundfield differentiation in space ...

Soundstaging is the three encompassing global dimensions of the soundfield way out of the speakers plane filling the room...

Holographic is the projection of the soundfield from points imaging in space to volumes distributed in space ...

Immersiveness when timbre perception is relatively accomplished as natural is the soundfield ratio between the sound source dimension and the listener position (ASW/LV ) in a word when the holography include the listener position ... Immersiveness is reached and timbre done relatively well when imaging soundstaging and holography are clearly perceived and distinguished together...

To all this i will add the acoustic aura and air between the volumes of each instrument in super high end systemin a completely controlled room ...(not mine) 😊

 

The best spatial attributes of sound maybe reached at any price but relatively (a low cost amplifier is not a 20,000 bucks one ) , first with Synergy between gear , at any price, then with mechanical and electrical controls of the working dimensions , and last but not least with acoustic control (not just mere passive treatment ) of the relation between the room pressure zones distribution and the speakers...But all that is not enough ...

Because of problems affecting all stereo system by crosstalk and the irrealism of the phantom images among many problems we need ears internal measures, HTRF measures. moving head measures filmed in real time and on top of that the BACCH filters system of Dr, Choueiri ...

Without all that even imaging will stay an abstraction almost as some points distributed in a spatial dimension between 2D and three D near the speakers and between it ... Even with some costlier system and even with EQ analog or digital, it is simple to deduce that it is not enough ....😁 And the sarcasms of some about any spatial true characteristics of sound as mere "illusions", "echoes", and "artefacts" says a lot about their own experience in their own system ...

Knowledge and creativity create S.Q. ,not  mere price tag nor mere EQ. which is only one among other useful tools ...

 

How to approach the selection? 

See if something of the recommendations shows up nearby that can be auditioned  Listen. If promosing: Negotiate 'try at home' audition or return option. Sell other stuff to finance. 

I haven’t seen discrete mention of the importance of driver surface area emphasized re: your intentions. Hints, but not the harsh reality check:

A 40 x 40’ room (am I recalling dimensions correctly?) is immense by hifi speaker standards. It will take an incredible second-hand deal, or a very decent PA kit deal, to fill suitably given that intense orchestra is your benchmark.

The DIY route was well-advised at your price point, even if perfection proves elusive 😉

https://audioroundtable.com/misc/nflawp.pdf

 

I missed where you live but Gene Rubin lets potential buyers audition Harbeths in the LA area,