Speakers: Anything really new under the sun?


After a 20-year hiatus (kids, braces, college, a couple of new roofs, etc.) I'm slowly getting back into hi-fi.  My question: is there really anything significantly new in speakers design/development/materials? I'm a bit surprised that the majority of what I see continues to be some variation of a 2- or 3-way design -- many using off-the-shelf drivers -- in a box (usually MDF at it core) with a crossover consisting of a handful of very common, relatively inexpensive components. I'm asking in all sincerity so please don't bash me. I'm not trying to provoke or prove anything, I'm just genuinely curious. What, if anything, has really changed? Would love to hear from some speaker companies/builders here. Also, before one of you kindly tells me I shouldn't worry about new technologies or processes and just go listen for myself -- I get it -- I'll always let my ear be my guide. However, after 20 years, I'm hoping there's been some progress I may be missing. Also, I unfortunately live in a hifi-challenged part of the country -- the closest decent hifi dealer is nearly 3 hours away -- so I can't just run out and listen to a bunch of new speakers. Would appreciate your insights. 

jaybird5619

Test your speakers....( not for timbre because it is techno music but test it for imaging and listener envelopment/source width ratio and soundstage)

This techno piece must be heard ALL AROUND you in front/left /right/back simultaneously ... Like a quadraphonic piece almost....😁😊

Headphone like sound but better than headphones but OUT of the head in my two postions: near listening and regular one...the soundscape must bear no relation to the speakers themselves...They dont exist and the soundscape fill the room....

My system is good but of low cost...Vintage well chosen piece thats all ...Dac of low cost but of good design....

The difference comes from basic knowledge of acoustic implemented in my room ....

Audiophile experience is NOT linearly RELATED to money spending sorry for those who never learned it......

 

 

Let’s stick with Monitor Audio like the OP has.
It is a different model, but I see:

  • Cabinet resonances
  • The step function is upside down
  • The impulse response is a bit ratty at the onset.
  • high distortion at 96dB, which is likely speaker compression.
    • That would affect loud passages which can be 20dB higher than the RMS SPL for say uncompressed classical or jazz recordings listened to even at 75-80 dB.
    • And as we add more distance from the listener to the speaker, this ability to handle higher drive power, gets to be more and more important. 

 

I can see nothing on the monitor audio web site that would suggest that they have fixed the issues, other than they did mentioned somthing about vibration work at a lab, so maybe the resonances were addressed??

 

Yeah other speakers at the higher end, have (and have had) low resonances and low compression… so it is not like current state of the art is in this (discontinued model). We would need to see a test of a current model to know for sure.

(And whether that is distressing to the sound, is dependant upon the listener.)
 

The conclusion in ^that link^ Is as follows:

Conclusions
The Silver 100 looks gorgeous and seems to have good engineering behind it to create a good response. It does however have a few small scale flaws. Because their scale was small, it was hard to evaluate their impact and develop correction for it. All else being equal, I rather see a speaker with larger error that are easy to identify and fix.  :) Such was not the case here. I let you judge its performance then based on data you see as my subjective assessment is weak in this regard.

I am going to give a recommendation to Monitor Audio Silver 100 with the bit of EQ in place. Hopefully we can get our hands on the "G7" version to see if they have made any refinements that mitigate the issues I found.

@roxy54 

 

OK, nobody wants your old full size floorstanders with wide baffles. What's popular now is floorstanders with a tall narrow form factor. These are essentially stand mounts with their own stand built in. 

taxonomy,

I still don't know what you're referring to. Floorstanders have been slim for many years now. I can't think of one that's wide.