Speakers cables that are warm yet detailed........


Need your help Audiogon members as I am in the market for a 3m bi-wired pair of good speaker cables that are warm to a degree yet present a great sounstage and are very detailed without being bright ...Holy Grail Cables you say !!!! I currenlty have Purist Audio Venustas...but would like to upgrade from them and which by the way are great cables. Current system is Avalon Eclipse, Rowland amp and pre-amp, dcs Delius and Purcell with a CEC TL-1 transport. Shunyata Anaconda's pc's and Synergistic Absolute Ref's ic's. Price ....around $3,500 to $4,000. Your thoughts....
garebear
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Tvad..thank you for your response, I was hoping that instead of listeining to a ton of cables that someone could shed some experience on certain cables that may work and you may want to note that some individuals already have. FYI, with the Cable Company you have to put down a deposit, and that is usually 10% of the cost of the cables your renting, and you can only listen to the ''ones they have in the library'' and usually are not the ones I want and then the deposit is then held by them for store credit only. It could be an expensive propositon. By the way, I appreciate your comments but I do not see where you offered any suggestions on any cables which is actually your criticizism of the thread itself and the people who are answering it. So, you could be either the problem or the solution to this thread. Give me some ideas !!!! Thanks....
Cardas cables are generally regarded as warm but have the right amount of details. Their Golden Cross Series are warmer than their Golden Reference series. Check out their FAQ site for more sonic description & application of their cables.
http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=faqs&content_id=3&pagestring=Cable+Use
I using their Golden Reference ICs & Golden Cross speaker cables & they synergies very well in my set-up ie: detail, analog sounding (warm) & with an articulate LF.
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While Grant does have a point, there is still a piece missing, the listener's personal preferences. I've known people who have owned the same equipment as myself, yet we disagree on cables because our musical choices and tastes are different. So contacting folks with Rowland amplification and/or Avalon speakers does not hold much weight either, IMHO.

Another suggestion, which I find works better for me than The Cable Company (I have a 6% sales tax as well, since I live in PA), is to buy and sell used on AudiogoN. The money lost is very minimal, if any at all, with some wise buys.

I've demo'd many cables, power cords, speakers and equipment that way. It's the only way to try things in your own system, IMHO.

That said, certain cables do have certain common traits. Nordost Valhalla will be stunningly fast and transparent, but may sound lean and thin in a analytical system. Cardas Golden Reference will sound full-bodied and warm, but may sound lifeless in a warm system. These are not just experiences of mine, but have been replicated with experiences of many other audiophiles.

So I think Gary is looking for a couple good suggestions of starting places. Cables with known traits as neither too warm or too detailed. I don't think he's looking for someone to tell him what cable he WILL like, just a couple of ideas of where to start trying in the AudiogoN marketplace. It is easier if you do a little 'homework' with fellow enthusiasts first, so you don't have to try EVERYTHING.

Maybe with some help, and some searches, both here and at AA, he can come up with a list of 3-5 cables he'd like to try. Many Audiophiles I've talked to have similar impressions on cables 'qualities', we just disagree due to systems and tastes. So you can gain some insight as to where to start. If he could find a thread like you started Grant, about power cord flavors, for cables, that would be helpful.

Earlier I echoed a Tara Labs recommedation, as I've always found them to be well balanced. Gary mentions that he does like the PAD Venustas, so maybe looking to move up the PAD line is another option.

That's enough for tonight.

Cheers,

John