Any more news on the 7's?? or Spendor 100 |
@three_easy_payments,
You are welcome. I spent about 16 hours in the last 1 year to come to a final position that I currently have. The problem with big speakers is moving them and then spiking them. My wife helps me if I have to remove/attach the spikes. Hopefully I don't do it so often to irritate her :-)
Do keep us posted as you spend more time with the loudspeaker. If it were not ProAcs, then Spendor is what I would have definitely got. |
@milpai
Thanks!...and good advice. I spent some time last evening working on placement and feel I have them dialed in really well. Now back to the music ;-) |
@three,Congratulations on the new D7s. Excellent speakers. Don't be in a hast to "break them in". Just enjoy them as-is and the music as well. Take efforts to place them correctly in the room and you will be superbly rewarded.
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@itzhak Thanks! I will definitely move to the spikes shortly as my prior speakers used them, tightening the bass quite a bit. I just didn’t want to tweak too much at once as I want to incrementally note the effect of each change. |
Congratulations for your new speakers !
I don’t think it’s a good idea to put the D7s directly on your maple hardwood floors with no spikes. no isolation from the floor can degrade the sound severely . |
@avanti1960
The D7s just arrived today and I've just started running them in. No doubt there is a treble edge that I never heard in the pair I demoed. However it's also immediately clear these speakers have a ton of potential as they run in. Very fast and responsive with a deep, wide soundstage. I look forward to listening to them open up like a fine bottle of left bank bordeaux. I have them playing with covers off and no spikes directly on my maple hardwood floors. Over the next month or so I will start experimenting with the spikes and possibly using them spikeless directly on top of Symposium Svelte speaker shelfs. |
Yes, I auditioned some D30R's at a store last year, and after only about 15 seconds I went running to get the owner, as I thought there was something seriously wrong/malfunctioning with their amplification. It sounded peaky, tizzy and hashy. I guess they hadn't been properly run in... |
The Spendor same as Proac speakers do need a long break in period and you have to be very patient . they might sound very terrible at the beginning but after long break-in they are spectacular (if they have proper system to move them of course). |
@three_easy_payments
Congrats on the D7s! They take some running in as noted and some getting used to but they excel at making the music exciting.
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Listening to Kenny Barron through my beloved SP 1/2E's now (circa 1997)...will never EVER sell them, as they soundly stomp on everything I've heard in the last 30 years. I thank the heavens I bought them when I did because at today's prices, forget about it. |
@avanti1960
I recently read your D7 thread on the Hoffman forums with great interest. After demoing the D7s I have a pair on order right now. Good to know about the prolonged run in time. The pair I heard were amazing and I didn't note the treble edge but then again they may have had plenty of hours on them already. I really like their pairing with tubes.
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So here's a question: I wonder how the latest iteration of the SP 1/2 measures up against the Harbeth SHL+. Design-wise they seem to have a fair amount in common. |
@twoleftears
the D7 speakers take a LONG time for the treble to balance out. Mine took ~ 200 hours.
At first they were crazy bright and imbalanced. They sound amazing now, bottom to top.
Never heard the classic series but had Harbeths previously. I'm sure I would like them but am very happy with the D7s. |
I see plenty of recommendations floating around recent threads for the
D7 and D9, but nary a mention of the Classic 100. I wonder why. Are no
dealers stocking it for demo?
...and as for the new 2/3 and 1/2 (the later looking especially interesting as a "poor(-er) man's Classic 100" with a similar 3 way configuration), nobody even mentions them! |
The Classic series of old and the recent models are totally different in my opinion. So much so that instead of buying any of the recent versions of the 1/2 I waited patiently to buy a pair of the older 1/2e that I had owned several years previously as well. I find the Sterling LS3/6 to be more in line with what the older Classic series sounded like versus anything Spendor is making today. I have to strongly disagree. I own SP2/3R2s and find them to basically sound like a scaled-down SP100. They're just a little less detailed and of course, cannot play as loud. I owned the Stirling LS3/6s for a few weeks. While very good, they are far brighter than any Spendor I've heard and quite lacking of warmth in comparison. The Stirlings produce a washboard-flat monitor sound. |
The Classic series of old and the recent models are totally different in my opinion. So much so that instead of buying any of the recent versions of the 1/2 I waited patiently to buy a pair of the older 1/2e that I had owned several years previously as well. I find the Sterling LS3/6 to be more in line with what the older Classic series sounded like versus anything Spendor is making today. Spencer Hughes came up with some excellent designs and took advantage of main drivers that would cover quite a bit of the frequency range before crossing over and "lossy" cabinets to create that special sound.
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Bought my S100’s new in 1990. I’ve owned various solid state and tube pre-amps and amps, the speakers have always sounded superb! Some, noting this ’universally’ good sound, regardless of (most) associated gear, suggest an artificial euphonic ’voicing’. I don’t know anything about any of that. All I know is that if this is wrong, I don’t wanna be right!;) BTW, the OP started the thread saying he never sees the big Spendors mentioned around here. You might want to try a search as I know they’ve been mentioned through the years (I’ve been reading reviews and what-not for close to 30!) |
@salectric The Classic 100 is the model name for the latest iteration of the SP-100. Effectively it=the Mk3. @three_easy_payments. Agreed, but the Classic 100 and the D7 were what were in the store. I think people looking at the D9 should at least think about the Classic model. @helomech The Classic top-to-bottom had more body, more oomph, and then as I say there was something in the D7 treble range, which I presume is the same in the D9, that didn't sound right, especially after hearing the 100. |
I recently auditioned the A7. I have a pair of SP1 at home and found the A7 much more dynamic, but lacking the sweet golden tone of the SP1. I have found the SP1 very much dependent on amplifiers. Originally ran it with a Harman Kardan and its was dull and boring. Got better with my Rega Brio, but came to life with a Leben cs600. Its only weak point is still not so dynamic with classical music. |
there was something in particular about the D7 treble range that made me uncomfortable I’ve encountered this same criticism a few times, even from a Spendor dealer. I was told the D-line is Spendor’s interpretation of a modern studio monitor. I haven’t heard the newest Classic 100s, but their predecessors, the SP100s, are still reference-grade speakers IMO. In fact, even among speakers costing upwards of $30K, I’ve yet to encounter any that I think are superior overall. Very few speakers, if any, manage such a wide array of talents. And most are tonally inaccurate in comparison (in my opinion of course). If you want the sound of SP100s/Classic 100s in a smallish floorstander, get the A7s. My dealer thinks they’re as close as it gets without buying the new Classic range. I did get to hear the new A4s in the same room where I heard the SP100s. Aside from bass output, I think I’d be hard-pressed to discern a difference in a blind listen. That makes the A4s sort of a great bargain IMO. If you’ve fallen for the Classic Spendor sound, I’m afraid there’s really no substitute outside of the new A-line, at least not that I’ve heard. And no, the Harbeth sound is not very similar. |
I'm not sure it's fair to compare the D7 to the Classic 100. The D7 is a completely different animal and comes in at half the price of the Classic 100. I would think folks in the market for a Classic 100 may be making more comparisons against say another large standmount like a Harbeth 40.2 than a small floorstander like the D7.
With this said I've only heard really great reviews about the Classic 100 but have yet to hear one in person.
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By Classic 100, do you mean the SP-100? If so, it is indeed a classic. I had a pair of the original SP-100 (before the later variations called the R, R2 etc) for over 15 years and enjoyed them the whole time. It was often called the “music lovers” speaker as opposed to an audiophile favorite. |
