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After what seems like a hundred hours or more of reading.  I think I am at the end of my search for subs.  If anyone has listened to any of these subs, I would greatly appreciate your review on them.  After all this research I have narrowed it down to 3 subs, I dont really care about any other subs, probably due to this 2 months of research. Exhaustion has set in and a choice needs to be made.  I have only had the chance to listen to a few, best buy being my source for listening. I did listen to Martin,  rel,  svs sb 2000 and sb 4000. Rel and Martin's under 1k, did not give me toe tapping. Both svs's did. (I will be selling both my vanderstien 2wq, i havent listened to them in yrs and just want new toys)  Other than BB, I have to travel quite far for hi end.  I listen to 60/40 music/HT.  My room is 8'x14'x24'.  Front spkrs are totem winds. I will be purchasing one in February and a second with 6 months.  In order these are my choices.
1.  Svs sb 3000. 
2.  Rymthik f12se.  
3.  Paradigm defiance x12

I've read alot on svs and rymthik, can't find much on x12.  Worried about rymthik only having 370 amp, yes I know it's servo. But svs is 800/2500. Quite a difference.  I thought about 15 inch sub, but the weight is crazy.  Ported is also heavy and possibly not up to my standards for tight music.  So I guess my question is,  who has listened to these 3 subs and what is your experience and evaluation of these subs. Details are appreciated.  Thanks, Pete
pcc67
ricred1
2,000 posts
 
danimaz,

I've owned several SVS subs and for music they don't come close to JL Audio. Based on actual listening I prefer one JL Audio F112 v2 over two SVS SB16 Ultra subs.
mzkmxcv
777 posts
 
Rythmik and HSU make better subs for the money in my opinion. SVS is still sold thru stores like BestBuy, so they have a dealer markup (of course they are a larger operation than HSU and Rythmik, so SVS’s production costs are whatnot are likely less, so it’s not like it’s a 2x price difference).
pcc67 OP
226 posts
 
I will probably just borrow a paradigm x12 and maybe a JL from the audio store I do business with. I will also order a svs sb3000.  But seriously I dont want 2 be over 3k and I want 2. Not one but 2.  Everything thing I've read says get 2. I really wish I could demo a rymthik.  JL does seem a bit snobby, 200 for a black gloss, must be alot more shinny then all the other sub companies charging 100.  Sorry about my rant, but I dont like over charges and i wouldnt own a bmw or Mercedes if given to me, but to each there own. Really redicoulous.  I wonder if they give 2 sub discount.  I will  look into this more.  I have heard great things about JL, but looking at some reviews recently there also looks like they have unhappy customers.  Not to bang up anything, I do my research and really hard to find anything bad about svs, same goes for rymthik. Price on both are almost half of JL.  And I do appreciate excellent bass, but I also need reliability.  5 yrs and 1k. That's nice and easy on the wallet.  3 yrs and 2k, not so much. 
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mzkmxcv
777 posts
 
Rythmik is more bang for buck than JL Audio, their $1800 sub measures similarly to their $2500 one. 
 
Rythmik gives a slight multi-sub discount. Rythmik’s warrenty is also much better than JL Audio, 3 years vs 1 year for the amp and 5 years vs 2 years for the drivers.
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