Sun Valley vs Sun Audio 300b


Any thoughts on how they sound?

 

Sun Audio is extremely simple circuit with no NF and Tamura.

Sun Valley is more complicated circuit w/GNF and Hashimoto.

 

I don’t mind building either, but hard to find anything out there comparing how they sound. Each has sales reps in US that want to push their own.

Sometimes simpler is better, other times stability is better.

thanks in advance!

 

 

clustrocasual

Hi all. I am new to this group.

I've been addicted to DIY audio for many many years, but just recently decided to give tubes a try. I wanted to start out with a single-ended kit that could be modded rather than going full-on scratch-built as my first experience. I spent considerable time researching and I found myself in a similar situation that was the catalyst of this discussion thread - torn between the Sun Valley, Sun Audio, Elekit, and Audio Note. Not a lot of comparison reviews out there for these contenders. Buying an amp without hearing it or touching it can be stressful. I eventually decided on the Sun Valley 300B (SV-S1616D) with the Hashimotos. My decision factors were point-to-point construction, price, and footprint (aesthetics). I just ordered it from Victor last week and it should arrive this week. I will say Victor is great to work with and passionate about this stuff. In our numerous email exchanges he always responded quickly, never more than a couple hours. He gave me a great deal, with a combo discount for buying a tube set with the amp, and he threw in the silver solder for free. I have a few upgrades in mind as I build - better hookup wire, better capacitors and resistors, possibly upgrade the tube sockets, maybe repaint the chassis, etc. I bought the GZ34 rectifier tube so I can experiment with tube vs SS rectification.

@beattyomatic Thanks for your write ups, they are helpful as I get started on this project. Great point about using a grounded IEC. I am curious about your mention that the rectifier tube can barely handle the voltage. From the 5AR4 type tube spec sheets I have seen the plate voltage can go up to 550V, and as far as I know the SV 300B is running the B+ at around 400V. I would love more detail on this if you don't mind. I was feeling like I wanted to be all tubes and use the tube reification for that "sound" but not if it introduces reliability risks.

I will keep you all updated with my build.

Great thread, stoking my DYI fires.  Hopefully someday when I have more available time.  I have taken a PC board soldering class, so feel fairly confident I can construct an amp kit, but I really want to understand how it works and how to upgrade components.  Maybe someday I’ll try to design simple amps for personal enjoyment.

I strongly considered the AN Kit1, Kit1-10, and Kit1-15. Honestly for all the upgraded parts that are included with the Kit1-15 you can't really beat the price. In the end I was stuck on my own requirement of 100% point-to-point wiring (no circuit boards) and so I went with the SV. Probably nothing wrong with circuit boards and it was more a matter of personal preference than any sort of pragmatic choice. I also preferred the 12AT7 & 12AU7 tubes used by the SV as opposed to the 6NS7 & 5687 tubes used by the AN because of availability and cost when considering tube rolling. I haven't completed my SV kit yet so can't comment on its sound. Who knows, maybe in the future I will purchase the AN Kit1-15 to do a little comparison listening (if/when I have a $5K of mad money available).