The Arm/Cartridge Matching Myth

So now we have most scientists/physicists and importantly.....Ortofon agreeing with my fundamental opening statement

This Resonant Frequency has ZERO affect on the sound quality of a particular tonearm/cartridge combination

So what exactly is the punishment for those audiophiles who ignore the recommended Resonant Frequency Guidelines as I do....?
IF you sometimes play a warped record and IF that record contains subsonic bass information and IF your turntable is mounted on a springy wooden floor and IF you happen to walk on this springy wooden floor when this warped record containing subsonic frequency information is playing.......the cartridge MAY mistrack!!!! 😱
It MAY mistrack.....it's a POSSIBILITY......it's not guaranteed to occur and no-one can tell you the 'likelihood' or 'percentages' because that science has never been studied.
I can tell you it's happened to me ONCE in 40 years with a badly warped record (I only have three out of a thousand).
And guess what......an OUTER PLATTER RING solved the warped record problem 😃
So if that's the 'worst' thing that can happen to me......is it really worth ignoring HALF the cartridges out there because I might have a high-mass tonearm? 
Especially when ALL my high-compliance MM cartridges sound their best in my EXTREMELY high-mass FR-66S tonearm?

I can understand scientists getting excited about the Arm/Cartridge Resonant Frequency.....
It is one of the only true scientific equations which can be tested and proven in the turntable/arm/cartridge assemblage and I think....because of that, they have over-estimated its importance.
But here's the real trick.......
The 8Hz-12Hz part of the story is NOT science.....
Like a magician practicing legerdemain (don't look at my hands)......they slip in the 8Hz-12Hz bit as if it WERE part of the 'Resonant Frequency' science....✋🤚
The 8Hz-12Hz is merely an educated 'Rule-of-Thumb' (that's why Ortofon don't mention it).
There is little SCIENCE behind it.....
It hasn't been tested, studied, verified, quantified nor analysed.

To emphasise the lack of 'real' science behind this subject, it is accepted that science and formulae work in two directions.
If x=2y.....then 2y=x
One must be able to 'reverse-engineer' REAL science.
If an Arm/Cartridge Resonant Frequency of 6Hz or 16Hz is truly a disaster to be avoided.....then science dictates that one must 'recognise' when one HEARS either of these combinations playing.

HERE is my Thread 'Hear My Cartridges 🎶'.....
There are nearly 150 YouTube recordings of dozens of cartridges with 6 different tonearms on two different turntables.
I would estimate there are perhaps 20%-30% recordings with the Arm/Cartridge Resonant Frequency outside the recommended range.
If anyone can accurately pick the recordings and define how far 'above' or 'below' the recommended 8-12Hz Resonant Frequency they are.....I may revise my recommendation to completely ignore this malicious MYTH....🤔

Halcro, you are intentionally misleading people. There are many myths in Hi Fi. This is not one of them.  https://www.ortofon.com/support/support-hifi/resonance-frequency/

Oh....ok.
As long as you say so.....

I didn't. Ortofon did.

Dear @halcro : First don’t try to avoid the inevitable, you just can’t do it.
Every one that read what others gentlemans/audiophiles with very high knowledge levels opinions with facts/evidence that I posted understand with out doubt what you after more than 6 years don’t do it. I said and now your posts confirm it: you have a personal big big problem.


""" until he has the last word. """ really? because my post was not about what I say on the subject but what other gentlemans posted in this thread and other forums. As I said please don’t try to avoid the inevitable.

"" Ortofon where there is not a single mention of the affect on the SOUND from the cartridge.
It is all about trackability of WARPED records """


"" also confirm that the issue is purely TRACKABILITY.......no claims regarding the affects on SOUND. ""


Please ask you: why cartridge designers put so much effort in the tracking cartridge abilities through the adecuated compliance/suspension/effective stylus ti´mass/ stylus shape, cantilever material, etc, etc.?

The differences in SOUND between a cartridge with 5cu ( everything the same. ) and other same design cartridge with 14cu is night and day because tracking ability is what permit to the stilus tip tracking in a way better form following the LP surface recorded grooves modulations. A cartridge with low compliance can’t give us all the information that are recorded in the grooves modulations in the same way that a higher compliance same model.
TRACKING ABILITIES MAKES AUDIBLE DIFFERENCES IN THE SOUND.

That you can’t hear it is another matters and a problem you have and that does not affects to any one else.

In the other side all LP are warped and the " outer platter ring " can’t fix it because that device helps for the macro warps but the micro ones no one can’t do  nothing about and we have to think that the stylus tip works at MICRO levels, so that micro warps changes the SOUND and tracking abilities in the cartridge ( along other issues. ) makes a difference. Additional to that is the off-center and feedback where boths effects works to " disturb " that cartridge/arm resonance frequency and directly affects/change the SOUND we perceive.



""" There is little SCIENCE behind it.....
It hasn’t been tested, studied, verified, quantified nor analysed. """


That you can’t understand it only say that all the ones that posted here are rigth and certainly even that you deny it: are wrong for your misunderstood. Tha’s all.


But you posted as part of your false arguments a non-scientific excercise:

""" is my Thread ’Hear My Cartridges """

sorry but that’s a good joke nothing more.


Again, re-read carefully the evidence on those very good posts because all those are the ones that already put the " last word " in the myth subject that’s as @mijostyn said: " this is not one of them.

As he said: """ you are intentionally misleading people ."""

Again, sorry but in this regards/myth/issue , for say the least, you are wrong with your terrible misunderstood.

I’m not saying it, all those posts by those gentlemans already said it. The last word came from all of them, like it or not.


Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

Maybe a rookie can’t understand nothing about the main subject but you have a lot of years in audio and started this thread 6 years ago. What did you learn in those years? because your last two posts confirm that you learned nothing about. I’m not saying that but your self posts.