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The Arm/Cartridge Matching Myth

When I began my journey in high-end audio 36 years ago….no-one ever wrote about arm and cartridge matching nor tonearm resonant frequency…?
Over the last 10 years or so…this topic has become not only ubiquitous, but has mutated beyond its definition, to THE guiding principle of matching cartridge to tonearm….❓❗️😵
The Resonant Frequency can be calculated using a complex formula relating Tonearm Effective Mass to the cartridge’s Compliance….or it can be simply measured using a Test record of various frequency sweeps.
The RECOMMENDED Resonant Frequency of any tonearm/cartridge combination is between 8-12Hz.
But WHY is this the recommended frequency and WHAT does it really mean…?

The raison d’etre of this Resonant Frequency…is to avoid WARPED records inducing ‘resonance’ into the tonearm…..
Say what…❓😵
WARPED records….❓❗️
Yes…..ONLY warped records❗️😎
But doesn’t it have any meaning for NORMAL records…❓
None whatsoever…..😊👍
Let me explain….🎼

A badly warped record induces the tonearm to rise and fall rapidly on the ‘sprung’ cantilever of the cartridge.
Depending on the severity and frequency of this warping…..a subsonic frequency between 2-5Hz is induced so if your tonearm/cartridge Resonant Frequency dips into this frequency range….it will begin resonating and thus miss-track and/or induce hum through your system.🎤
Keeping the lower limits of your tonearm/cartridge Resonant Frequency to 8Hz simply insures against this possibility.🎶

So what about the 12Hz upper limit…❓
This simply insures against the possibility of any ultra low-level frequency information which MAY be on the record, also inducing this same miss-tracking or hum. For instance if your tonearm/cartridge Resonant Frequency was 18Hz and you had an organ record or one containing synthesised bass going down to 16Hz…..your tonearm may miss-track or you MAY develop a hum❓😢

So how many badly WARPED record do you possess…❓
I have three out of a thousand or so……and have NEVER experienced miss-tracking or hum even on these three…❗️😍

Yet these days….everyone (without exception it seems)…even tonearm and cartridge designers….happily follow the dictum of this Arm/Cartridge MATCH as if it affected sound quality…..❓
This Resonant Frequency has ZERO affect on the sound quality of a particular tonearm/cartridge combination and I have proved it hundreds of times with a dozen different arms and over 40 cartridges.

The best match for ANY cartridge ever made….is simply the very best tonearm you can afford…whatever its Effective Mass…😘
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halcro OP
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And now that you've re-entered the 'fray' Atmasphere......
Being an amplifier designer and manufacturer.....you would have all the electronic gear available to show us exactly how a cartridge's Frequency Response Plot changes with Arm/Cartridge Resonant Frequency?

Here's your chance to put me out of my misery and prove me WRONG!!!!
Not scientific enough for you......?🤗
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rauliruegas
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Dear @halcro  : With all respect you have a hard head because you read but not really READ becauise every time you post show that you don't understand nothing of all what all those gentlemans posted years ago in this and other forums and that I posted to you and tell you at least twice time in this thread that you READ IT VERY CAREFULLY and your posts show that you did not or understand nothing about.

In the other side you was who post this thread and in your OP you ( that are asking for SCIENCE. ) don't show not only true evidence on the main subject ( MYTH. ) where proves what you are supporting  and no one can read there that SCIENCE when you are tghe first person that must prove what you are supporting ( MYTH. ) in your OP.

No one has to prove you that you are wrong ( even that a lot of gentlemans here already PROVED. ) instead you that are the proposer is the one and first one that need with SCIENCE to prove that is a MYTH and please don't repeat again that joke ( as a prove. ) " hear my cartridges " that of SCIENCE has nothing .

All those true opinions I posted for you read it carefully have a lot lot more SCIENCE that your " hear my cartridges " or all what you are posted here trying to said you are rigth.

Do you want that I use the rigth word to name your beahavior on that critical an important  subject?, because no matters what you are totally wrong till you PROVE with SCIENCE that you are rigth.

Please don't ask to @atmasphere  that he use that science to do it, it is not his responsability. IT IS YOU WHO HAS THE MAIN RESPONSABILITY TO DO IT WAS YOU WHO STARTED THE THREAD WITH OUT ANY PROVE, so and if you can't do it ( that I know for sure you can't and not only: no one can't to prove that exist that myth. No one. ) at least try to post something that stop to shows that you  have a serious problem in your brain supporting your negative attitude.

Please prove that exist that MYTH as you said it SIX YEARS AGO and that even all those years today you still support it with no evidence that can prove your words or that you learned " something " about.

R.
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atmasphere
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Being an amplifier designer and manufacturer.....you would have all the electronic gear available to show us exactly how a cartridge's Frequency Response Plot changes with Arm/Cartridge Resonant Frequency?

Here's your chance to put me out of my misery and prove me WRONG!!!!
I believe I already did. As you saw in the paper I linked (presented to AES, and so was reviewed by the members- it is bona fide IOW) incorrect mechanical resonance can result in excess rumble.


**Again**: this gobbles up amplifier power and results in greater intermodulation on account of the amplifier itself. There is no way around this simple fact as without an amplifier and transducer, you cannot play the LP. Now this to me seems like a fairly simple fact. There are several threads on how to reduce woofers from flopping about when playing LPs on this site. and with a lot of loudspeakers if you play material that is too low, the woofers will not sound right as they flop about. Clearly, it affects the
SOUND
-as you put it.


Now the paper I linked stated that the mechanical resonance do not affect the audio band 20-20KHz. Despite this, it makes clear that artifacts will arise, and for the reasons I stated (and that many here have experienced) eliminating those artifacts by getting the setup right does indeed affect sound quality. So we can draw only a limited number of conclusions!

1) you don't actually play LPs so would have no idea of what I'm talking about

OR

2) you are trolling.

In either case, the premise of this thread is debunked. Knock it off.




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mijostyn
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The rumble and low frequency resonance also causes Doppler distortion of every other frequency being produced by the woofer.

Halcro you obviously can not hear or observe the difference between a properly set up turntable and an improperly set up one. I have come to understand Halcro now. He is both blind and deaf. Go figure. 
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rauliruegas
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Dear @mijostyn : Not only that. Additional has not common sense.

Btw, common sense is main part of any science.  Einstein, Newton, Galileo and the like had high levels of common sense.

I think that after six years the myth proposal is today inside the stupidity land.

R.
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