They know we will pay anything they can think of

Anyone have any idea how long ago Hifi manufacturers discovered we (audiophiles) will pay almost anything chasing our perfect sound? I individualized it because each of us are reaching for our own personal nirvana. You can go to any audio show, see someone point to a piece of equipment and ask the price. Out comes a price you know the rep made up while sitting in his office wondering how much he can ask those sick people to pay. We know advertising, manufacturing, and overhead is relatively expensive but we also know that the asking price should take care of that if he sells maybe 4 or 5 of them all year. Knowing that I have paid quite a bit for equipment over the years that I knew I shouldn't have but did anyway.


You are creative and we made our luck by staying attentive...Congratulations...

Myself i need no more...

I know exactly how to upgrade, with what and for the best cost...

It is important to communicate these facts to help others not to throw money out of the windows in this difficult times...

My speakers modified sound more than good, i will pass for the B&W even it is a deal ... 😊

If someone does not want to quit listening all his music files it is done deal acoustically for me ...I owned 9 headphones, dynamic, electrostatic and planar; i prefer my 200 hundred bucks speakers acoustically well embedded... No company can say and teach simple acoustic truth they will lost half their market.... They prefer to propose costly "upgrades"...

By the way with the incoming world crisis, deals as this one will not lack...But who buy audio components in a world crisis ? I use music as a therapy...

I listen this right now ( i am not religious by the way ) this sound spectacular on my small modified boxes... and therapeutic as revelatory 😉 :



Time to become garage sale junkie driving around in pickup truck in the richest neighborhoods.

You can get everything there even cheaper.

I’m living example. I’ve forgotten path to hi-end dealer and I forgot an amazon and ebay link all together.

How about a couple of B&W N3 for $400 per pair MINT?



Sounds to me like your cynical / lazy side has overwhelmed your rational senses.

I recommend doing some research into the founders and companies like Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, Pass, Wilson, Boulder, Magico… etc. leading high end companies were founded by men fanatically dedicated to pursuing the high end sound, Few, did not face bankruptcy at some point. These guys never had making a fortune remotely in their mind… only producing spectacular products, the very best possible.

I recommend instead of looking at a price tag and coming up with your own conspiracy theory completely devoid of facts or understanding, do some research and find the answer. It is easy to find. For instance try the Audio Research 50th Anniversary Book. It goes deeply into the endless dedication of the founder / lead designer… like almost any great high end companies. Learn about Wilson, Pass… etc.

4/5 times the cost?  Good luck with that!  It cost us $5K in parts alone to make custom mono block class A amps.  The dealer wants 40% of the price.  So if we sell them for $15K a pair we make $4K profit.  WOW we are getting rich right?  Selling 5 of them we get $20K.  We are taking everyone to the cleaners right!

Now try selling a number of units to make $100K.  Cannot make money as a company doing this. Pay some rent, a few employees, taxes, warranty if and when necessary.  You get the point!

Happy Listening.



+1 @ghdprentice

The OP seems very unfamiliar on how businesses work, how pricing is established, which market segments they compete in. He seems to ignores the costs of running a business, the R&D expenditures, and a markup enough to be net profitable/survive.   If it were a larger market and thus able to sell more then maybe markups can be reduced offset by volume, but high-end audio is a small niche market.

Audiophiles are not “suckers” blindly paying more thinking that they will get a better sound. We generally are very careful and thoughtful on our choices.