Three Cheers for Pass Labs


We all have complaints about customer service now and then, and when we do, we don't hesitate to voice our complaints. I have a positive experience that I would like to relay to Audiogon members. Last November, I bought a Pass Labs X250.5 amplifier from a fellow Audiogon member. When I received the amp, I used it for 4 days, and I was surprised and disappointed that the sound was not nearly as good as I was expecting. I chalked it up to a difference in tastes, and put it away, intending to sell it after the holidays. I did sell it to another member 2 weeks ago, and he too noticed that it did not sound good. He had long experience however with Threshold amps, and knew that it should sound better. He called Pass, and they guided himm through a simple test that showed that the bias settings were way out of whack. The buyer no longer wanted the amp and I refunded his money. However, I was told by Nelson and Kent at Pass Labs that if I shipped it to them, they would repair it at no charge. I want to add that the amp is out of warranty. I think that this is exceptional customer service, and I want everyone to know. I have had a similar experience with McIntosh, and I want to give a vote of support to all manufactureres who treat their customers in this way. Thanks!
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BTW,
Do you have the details on the bias test? I would like to chek mine for the heck of it...I'm sure it can't be any tougher than when I rebiased my arc VT100MKII...hot and nerve wracking with the dmm probes across a 450 volt potential...while tweaking a trimpot...
Never had a problem with my Pass while I owned it. But have received excellent support from the following company's: Krell (Patrick is great), BAT, Channel Islands, Thiel come to mind in particular for providing exceptional support and timely feedback, either by phone or e-mail. Other notables where McIntosh and B&K. Most recently, I have received great after sales support from Aesthetix, both the company and the distributor here in the States. Kora and Audio Aero (both French companies) on the other hand were very much lacking of decent customer support.

More importantly here I think is the fact that there are units in the field that do not perform properly or to their full potential. It is sometimes difficult to determine whether this is a matter of personal taste or an actual problem with the component. Knowing that pieces ship from the factory out of spec, imagine how much more likely it is that they are being sold used "out of spec". Recall the reviews the rags have done only to report that their test sample was out of spec or not functioning properly. If the manufacturers can't get an in spec item to a reviewer, imagine how poor their quality controls are for the everyday customer.

I have purchased equipment in the past with print outs of the actual testing procedure for the individual component that I received. In this industry, at the higher end price points, it would seem that this should be standard protocol. I believe it was an ARC preamp that came with the hand written pre-ship test results. Also I think my very old Golden Tube Audio SE 40.
surprised the buyer didn't then want the amp if Pass could fix the settings for free.
I have found Pass to be a CLass act also. I would recommend their products and espescially the after market care. If all companys treated people like the good people at Pass the world would be a better place. I also would like to add that the people at B&W are very friendly and helpful also. While I could go on forever about the good service that I have had I would be remise if I didn't mention Audio Research they really go out of there way to resovle any issues you may have with their equipment. I think the common thread with these companies is these companies sell some of the best gear on the planet so they stand behind the products knowing that a happy customer is a repeat customer and will always recommend them.

Hi Roxy,
Thanks for sharing!
Great news that Pass Labs equipment owners are in good hands.

However, I was just curious, have you had a chance to as the fellow Audiogon member who sold YOU this amplief if any work or any "tweaking" was performed on this amplifier during its stay in his system and if not, then how it sounded? Has he noticed anything unusual?

Just wondering how is it that the bias settings on this ampifier were out of wack. Pass indicates in their literature the entire process of testing each amplifier before it is shipped and that involves checking bias.
It seems like the chances it left the factory with bias settings all screwed up are very slim.