Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Thekong, Could you please elaborate on your comment? In what ways do you think the Salvation rim drive is compromised?
And in what ways does would it sonically resemble a slate-based Lenco? For all I know you may be correct, but what is the basis for your comparison between these two? One is slate, the other machined brass and steel or alu. One drives the platter via an idler wheel placed in the vertical position, the other drives the platter via a tiny diameter wheel at the rim. One uses an inverted magnetic bearing, the other uses any of several types of conventional bearing. Etc. Otherwise, they are exactly alike.

I do love my Lenco, by the way.
Peterayer, Lewm,

I maybe one of the very few posters on this thread to have actually compared the Salvation (the earlier version with non-magnetic bearing) to a number of worthy contenders in length in my own system!

The other TTs included the Rockport Capella II (standard ruby bearing version) with 6000 arm; Micro Seiki 777 Air (air-bearing) with FR64S arm; Exclusive P3a with stock arm; and Technics SP10MKII (partially updated with some, but not all, new electrolytic caps) in stock plinth with SME V arm.

Before I got the Salvation, my friend also brought over a PTP/slate plinth/Jeremy Super Bearing Lenco with the Terminator arm to compare to the Rockport. This was documented in a thread in Lenco Heaven a couple of years ago.

First, I must stress again that the Salvation is a real bargain for its asking price! However, is it comparable to TTs 10-15X its cost? Yes and no!

In my experience, the Salvation sounds a lot like the highly modified Lenco mentioned above. As I understand, Vic also used a highly modified Lenco as reference during the development phase of his TT.

Performance wise, like the highly modified Lenco, the Salvation has incredible dynamics and explosiveness, which is its major strength against all other contenders. Yes, in this area alone, it probably could be compared favorably to TTs costing 15X more, at least to those that I have auditioned! I am not sure why, but it seems even more dynamic than the P3a and SP10 MkII in my system!

However, in areas such as background blackness, instrument layering within the sound stage, micro dynamics, and finesse, it lags slightly behind the TTs mentioned above. Over all, it just sounds slightly coarse to my ears as compated to the other TTs. Its characters may make it an excellent choice for Rock but probably not Classical. This may be due to the unavoidably higher vibration transfer in the idler/rim drive system, as compared to BD and DD.

No TT is perfect and fit for all users! If dynamics is of utmost important to you when choosing a TT, the Salvation will not disappoint! If finesse is important to you, then you should find a way to audition the Salvation before committing.

For me, if I could only have one TT, the Salvation would not be my top choice. Although I wouldn't feel too deprived if I could only have it! On the other hand, it is a very good TT to have for the right music / mood!

Of course, this is only IMHO, and YMMV!
Thank you, Thekong, for one of the most informative posts on this thread. I had no idea that you had such a depth of experience with the tt's we've been discussing. I have a question. You wrote above, "However, in areas such as background blackness, instrument layering within the sound stage, micro dynamics, and finesse, it lags slightly behind the TTs mentioned above." Did you mean ALL the tt's you had previously mentioned, including the Lenco, or did you mean to exclude the Lenco from that generalization? Oddly enough, I have a slate/PTP/Lenco with the Jeremy Superbearing and accessory bearing clamp. So I know whereof you speak when it comes to the sound of that tt. Makes me wonder who is your friend with a tt exactly like mine, albeit I don't own a Terminator tonearm. I use a Dynavector DV505 on my Lenco. However, your having heard the Terminator on the Lenco allows you to dissect the "sound" of the Salvation from that of the Terminator on the Salvation.
Thekong, thank you very much for your detailed response. I find that too often threads present primarily one very positive description or perspective of a product, mostly by those who own it and really enjoy it. Comments like yours, which are based on direct comparisons in your own system, add a sense of balance to the overall impressions one may get from these threads. Your observations are much appreciated.