Tube amp for Sourcepoint 8?


My Sourcepoint 8s are breaking in nicely...loving them so far (and boy did they need break-in!). I have them paired with an Exposure 3510 integrated, which sounds wonderful - the holography and bass quality are completely addictive. But I do notice a slight dryness in the upper mids, and I'm wondering if a tube amp might be helpful here. Does anyone have direct experience with SP8s combined with tube amps? Only looking for people who have actually heard them in person this way (not on YouTube). Separates are not an option for me...looking for an integrated solution. Any insights appreciated. Thanks!

mdemaio

If this speaker is used with tube amplifiers, the significantly higher impedance in the treble compared with that in the midrange will tilt up the high frequencies.

@soix This is a good example of how Stereophile comments are not always correct. If the amp is designed properly its very likely the output of the amp will not increase at all. This can be true even if the amp lacks feedback.

@mdemaio   Since this is a lower efficiency speaker of only 87 dB (quite common with speakers of this size) you will need some power. But you may not need all that much. I would expect a Dynaco ST70 to do quite well on this speaker. The load is benign so you have a wide range of amps that will do the job.

But just to be clear a lot will depend on how you play your system and the size of the room. My speakers in my bedroom system are the same efficiency and I drive them with a 5 Watt/channel integrated stereo tube amp that has no problems playing plenty of volume; in fact I've never run it out of gas. My bedroom is not that small; it takes up the entire second floor of my home.

Dynaco made a small integrated amp called the SCA35 which might be a consideration. I don't know if they still make it; if you get an older one it will have to be refurbished. But you could do that for under $1500.00.

 

Well, given you like the Exposure (nice amp BTW) and are just looking for a little more meat on the bones you might be looking for more of a neutral sounding tube amp rather than a more conventional and warmer “tubey” sounding amp.  I’d put the PrimaLuna more in the latter camp and would be a little concerned you might miss some upper octave detail and energy.  With what you stated you’re looking for I’d check out the Rogue Cronus Magnum iii for a tube amp and the Unison Unico series that are hybrid integrated designs with tube pre and MOSFET solid state amp sections.  Sound Approach sells the latter with a 10% discount and a trial period, which is nice.  Either should do a great job filling in what you’re missing in the upper mids while retaining what you like about the Exposure.  Just some ideas to ponder FWIW, and best of luck. 

GanFET amps have a “warm” presentation, but not sure if it’s offered in an integrated

Thanks for all the thoughtful responses, guys. 

Soix, we are very much aligned - the two amps that have risen to the top of the  consideration set so far have been the Cronus ("Dark" version) and the Unison Unico Nuovo (or Due). Just not sure how much of a step up they are from the 3510. I'm going to give the speakers another 100+ hours before I think about this at greater depth. 

Atmosphere, I have my dad's ST70 in storage. I had upgraded it with Curcio mods a while back, so it's a little less euphonic than the original (which works in my favor here). I wouldn't want a 50+ year old amp to be my main rig, but at least it can give me a starting point for differences. It's more likely that I'd have better sonic luck with a KT88-based amp than with the EL34s of the ST70, but I can at least contrast. 

Thanks again!

I'd suggest the Cary SLI 80HS and the Margules I-240. Plenty of tube power and sweetness. 

I currently have the Cary paired with Volti Razz, such a great combo for my taste. I like that Cary changed the rectifier stage to SS, (apparently helps with the syrupy nature of previous generations but keeps the warmth of the tubes). Also with the Cary one can switch between Ultra-linear and Triode mode on the fly.

I have heard the Cary with Sourcepoint 10's and enjoyed the session very much. It reminded me of when I worked at our local HiFi shop and we sold Cary and Tannoy. They were a very pleasing combo in my book.