Tube Preamp for Pass XA25 under $3,000


As the title says, I am looking for a Tube Preamp under $3,000 for my office system, which is my main listening space. I just do streaming (Roon/Tidal straight out of high end PC, ie no streamer, into Matrix Audio DAC) and currently have a Schiit Freya plus, new to me Pass Labs XA25 that I love, and Harbeth P3esr in nearfield (four feet). Broad range of music, from acoustic/vocals/americana and jazz to livelier funk and rock at moderate levels.

I like my system, but feel the Freya may be the weak link. I am happy with the sq of the mellower stuff, but the more challenging funk and rock can get a bit muddled in the lower range. I am mostly leaning toward tube preamp, but might consider Pass Labs ss preamp if I can find one that won’t blow my budget. Primarily looking for used gear for the savings. Balanced input is a bonus.

So I am looking at the following that is currently available and under budget roughly in order of preference:

LTA Microzotl Preamp (not headphone amp)

Modwright LS 100 Tube Preamp

Conrad Johnson ET3SE

Prima Luna Dialogue Premium Preamp

new Don Sachs Line Stage Preamp (appears that most used ones available have caps for tube amps, so would probably have to go new here)

Pass Labs xp 10 (none that I can find online now, so that will be a wait and see)

Pass Labs xp 12 (really beyond my budget but might go for it if a good deal arises)

Forget the preamp and invest in streamer

So would like to know if anyone has experience with any of the above preamps with a XA25, or just any general thoughts on which might be best for my situation. Thanks in advance.

jcwilson

I have been really busy with family and work.  I will say that the Backert has improved clarity and soundstage from top to bottom, and I am very pleased.  I guess predictably the high and midrange of my usual acoustic/vocal music has really benefitted.  However, the lower ranges are also definitely shaking out more clearly, including for more "complex" music like full on rock and funk.  (Sorry I am not really all that great at describing this stuff)  There is just more separation and clarity between the instruments even in the lower mid-range than the Freya plus. 

I realize it may not mean much, but the volume on the Backert stays between 8 and noon.  As mentioned, I am listening in nearfield, and my office is around 12x12, but it is completely open on one side (behind the speakers).  So the nearfield and size of the room may be helping with the lower gain.  It is really quite loud and fills my office at noon.

I will add that I do have a pair of REL T-Zeros that help the very lower end, but again, I have to really get the sound up before I feel they are pressurizing the room.  The Harbeth's are definitely putting out better low end on their own than before with the Freya.  

It is hard to tell if the sound is "thin" or "anemic" without comparing to another preamp.  If anything is hinting at a thinness, it is the high end, but it really might just be that the clarity has thinned out the treble more than I am use to.  It may be a matter of it being less forgiving of poorer recordings.  Certainly, the comments make me want to compare it to a higher gain preamp, and there is an Aric Special for sale.  Frankly, I do need a second preamp for my living room/HT, and would happily move the Backert there if it did not perform as well as another amp.  On the other hand, I don't need another preamp without HT bypass, and I don't see that the Aric's generally have that (perhaps saw reference to a bypass mod, but I could have imagined that).  I am going to think about this some more.  I really was planning on getting serious about a streamer, but may have to divert the funds to a another preamp.

Finally, with regards to the Cary, I would point out that I have a Matrix Audio DAC, with higher voltage, and the thread recently discussing this issue involved a Matrix DAC.  So that was concerning for me going that direction.  It might not have been an issue using unbalanced inputs from the DAC, but it was a concern for me.

Thanks for the input. 

Well I am glad to hear that the Backert is providing what you wished for. I am curious as to what voltage is provided by your DAC.

Regarding the Aric Special I own one of Aric's early versions.. It was replaced by Aric with the Super. One main difference between the two is that the Special has a variable resistor for the gain and the Super has fixed resistors with four gain levels. Also the Super has superior parts inside.  I would call Aric to discuss the differences and what he can do regarding the HT bypass. Whatever you decide you will gain from the conversation. Aric is great to deal with.

Suffice it to say, I second @mesch and his suggestion on reaching out to Aric.

 

Happy New Year!

Voltage for Matrix Audio X Sabre Pro is 4.5 Vrms for XLR and 2.25 for RCA input.