Tube Preamp - What to buy?


Looking to take my first venture into the tube world and going with a tube preamp.  My budget is up to $2500 and willing to buy used or new however realize with my budget that used is probably a better path. I would like to have a built-in MM phone stage.  I am use to having a remote and tone controls, so that would be nice however not a necessity.  

For further information my speakers are Revel Performa3 F206 and the current amp(s) is Conrad Johnson SA-250 and I also have a Rotel RB1552.  I many be looking for an amp upgrade in the future, but one thing at a time. 

So far I have been looking at used Audio Research and Conrad Johnson preamps but very open to opinions on brand and model.  Thanks and I look forward to your opinions and experiences.  
speter04
I am in absolute love with my Audio Hungary Qualiton APR 204. Has everything you want , brand new, on budget. I was in an Audio Research LS-26 when this gem came along . My favorite preamp ever, and I’ve had many, by all the respected brands . 
Wow, a walk back through memory lane as I haven’t bought a preamp in probably 15 years.  I bought my first tube one, an arc sp8 that I still have in the box, back in the 1980’s…  I’ve also owned their sp9, 10, and 11, and still have counterpoint, manley and cj ones, and through the years have had an opportunity to listen to a great number of the recommendations you received. 
As you probably know, after cd’s (perfect sound forever) became the norm, many manufacturer’s dropped phono stages from their pre units, and started manufacturing line only pre amps, a trend which continues through today.  Your wanting an inboard mm stage therefore in some ways limits your search, but in some ways benefits it, as by comparison, good mc stages were more difficult and expensive to produce.  
I could ramble on for a while, but note that you’ve received some great suggestions already.  Having been down that search some decades ago, I’d heartily second the wonderful manley ultimate, an arc 3/8/9/11, or a mm stage cat.  Counterpoints as well, but now they are tough to find, and tougher to service.  Arguably more musical, perhaps at the expense of some audio parameters by comparison to more modern products from the same companies, these oldies were truly goodies.

Buying used is a great way to go, and most of the major players will continue to service their products many years after their manufacture date.

good luck!

ps.  While there are great systems out there with tube pre/solid amp combos, a couple of relatively inexpensive tube pieces together can bring a smile to one’s face the same way an inexpensive turntable can.  Don’t hesitate to wander down that path for a bit. rbm
There is a super nice (used) Air Tight ATC-1 for sale on line. It has a MM phono stage. It is just fantastically built and sounds wonderful. I should know, I used to own it. I think they want 3500.00
@russbutton

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07-23-2021 7:27am

The Don Sachs line stage preamp ($2500) is just the VTA SP-14 dressed up in a pretty case. The SP-14 can be bought as a kjt ($1200) or fully assembled and tested ($1800). The top line PH-16 phono preamp kit ($700) can also be had fully assembled and tested ($1000).

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Definitely a used EAR 868PL with Phono and remote, or EAR 912 as mentioned above, they share the same line stage!

EAR 912, if you are into Vinyl, but otherwise I wouldn’t bother to put the extra money into it.  

Buy four NOS Siemens PCC88 (7DJ8) and you got a killer preamp, that matches a lot of SS and tube amps👌🏻