tuner better than turntable ? thread.

Hi Tdaudio;

I agree, "FM is designed to be at a disadvantage to vinyl in two important ways."

That's the reason why I started this thread!

I'm just amazed what the FM can accomplish.
shocking really. I can't explain it, just so much I don't know.

most don't agree with me, which is not surprising, but what is surprising to me is how good FM really is?

Jimpcn, if you're happy that's great. I have no doubt you have a wonderful tuner. No matter how good it is, you have no control over the technical limitations of the FM band and the horrible things that most stations do to the signal to make it even more limited. Happy listening.

Wendell

Hi Al;

you aked;
"Did you compare the two tuners in the same system and room?"
no I did not, but am familiar with both systems and have alot of experinece in audio systems, that said your right,
there is a small element of uncertanty,

Otherwise, how do you know that the caps were responsible for the differences you heard?
because from what I understand is that the 108T and 109T
are basically the same unit using the same circiut boards
but the expensive display,metters and thick aluminum faceplates are different.

"And was the 108 the original older version, or the updated 108T version?"
it is the latest 108T, just one month old.

" And whichever 108 it was, how can you conclude that the upgraded caps in the 109 were the reason it sounded better than the 108, considering that they are different models?"

like I said, I understand the difference are only cosmetic.
and the same circiut boards are being used, hope I don't get into trouble with Dynalab. :>(

Hi Wendel;

I don't own these tuners, nor have I ever said I own these turners, they are my friends, and although it may be great, I still prefer to use vynal because I can play what I want when I want.

I have an inexpense unit that does the job of back ground music when I'm multi-tasking or when there is a live concert being broadcasted. I simply can't afford to keep up with the "jones".

but this thread is about the ultimate source quality and I shamedly admit, it might be the FM tuner.

Hi Jimpcn,
The fm stereo broadcast system is limited to 15khz the engineers chose when they designed it. The frequency's above 15khz aren't there to listen to.There may be noise above the 15khz in a lot of records that you hear on vinyl that wouldn't be there on the fm broadcasts you listen to.There are a lot of bad pressings.In the 60's to 80's I've exchanged many records do to bad pressings. I think a lot of times they ran batches of records off bad worn out dies,whether they knew it or not who knows.They had distortion and noise,even after breaking them in.Being records are capable of over 30khz,who knows whats there.A record has to be made as good as possible.So I'm guessing that blocked out high frequency noise above the 15khz may be why the tuner sounds better over vinyl to a lot of people.I don't have any stations in my area that plays the same music that I have to be able to compare.But once in a while,our college station plays some music I enjoy.I tried that digital tuner that Sam Tellig liked a lot(on about 20 different stations)and it was no match for my cd's,fm analog,or vinyl.If they play vinyl over the air and it sounds better,that's my only guess is noise or something else bad going on over 15 khz.