Turntable/Tonearm choices


What is your take on Clearaudio Ovation with Satisfy tonearm vs Thale Slim II with Simplicity II tonearm vs Stabi R with Kuzman 4 point tonearm?
jaym759
Of those 3 choices, the Kuzma combo is faaar and away the better choice.  The Stabi R is a superb turntable and the 4Point is one of the best arms available regardless of price.  Combine them and you won't find anything objectively and verifiably better.
Subjectively better is, of course, a different beast entirely.
Dear @millercarbon : Do you already listen it? bacause I did it in a top room/system with a cartridge I know very well and I can say it's worth to own it.

Mijos said is a" nigth mare " and complicated for something to simple that I think is not so simple as he posted.

Here what a gentleman that I respect posted on the Thales tonearm, @downunder is a proud owner:

"  This is an easy one for me. The biggest leap in sonic improvement for my Lyra Atlas has been to put a Thales Simplicity II tonearm onto my TW Acustik AC-3.

My TW turntable now sounds the best it has ever sounded, even my tube phono stage sounds much better now.

I am now a believer in tangential tracking tonearms. ""

and other from @whatthe :

Thales simplicity 11 and statement, are in my view, game changers. I have owned a fair amount of tonearms over the last 20yrs. Looking for that final purchase. Thalesis it. Done! Nothing other then the walker or Schroeder LT compares to it. Masterfully constructed, beautifully designed and engineered. Everything is taken into consideration. No where else to go. Happy and finished searching.  *****
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Is it a perfect tonearm ? nothing is in audio ( always exist trade-offs. ) but it'sreally good design and with Swiss quality excecution levels.

Btw, I like the Kuzma 4point tonearm but the Thales is different in different league.


R.
"Happy and finished searching"

Ah yes; if only I had a Dollar, Pound or Euro for every time I heard or read an audiophile say words to that effect..... Usually as a precursor to said item turning up in the classifieds a few weeks or months later.

I do agree that the Thales is in a different league, just in the diametrically opposite way.
rauliruegas, regardless of how well built the Thales is it is in many ways a silly design. First off fewer moving parts and bearings is always best. You want a stiff arm tube. The Syrinx PU-3 was the first to prove that. The SAT arm is the current incarnation. Cartridges are very sensitive to bearing friction. But most importantly exactly how are you going to apply the right anti skating compensation when the offset angle is constantly changing? It is tough enough already. That design makes it virtually impossible. Funny, you would have been the last guy I would have expected to fall for that. Rube Goldberg could do no better. 
to     mijostyn:   thanks for your experience with these turntables/tonearms. Very helpful. BTW do I see correctly that you use a 4 point on a SOTA. If so, what are your experiences with this set-up and what cartridge would you recommend with your 4 point?