Tyler and Acoustic Zen reviews in TAS

Mitch2 , not sure what you maen about the last line, "people no longer....their purchase of tyler soeakers". I gather what you are saying is that the System2's the 3 way, W22/W18/T25 is abit over priced at $3600/direct from Ty price.(Ty has no retail outlet price, so as you say the list price means nothing, and not sure why list is mentione don any audio product)
Then I gather you feel his SIG System, a MTM with bass module priced at $4800 is more bang for your buck and is the better deal/the way to go. Am I redaing you correctlY/
But even so, i'm not interested in the much larger MTM+ dual 8's. Its way too much for my tube amp and how i like my music imaged. I don't care for big sound. The SYSTEM 2's (W22/W18/T25 is very competitive in price for that midsize speaker.
Look at Thiels 3 ways, at like $3500, and Spendor 8ce 2 way at $3100. 2 drivers at $3100. Both can be had used on the cheap. try to find a tyler used on the cheap. You are in for a very long wait :-)
btw I see the Spendor is british. Sorry I don't care for brit sound. But I'll give them a fair and unbias hearing tomorrow.

Bartokfan: ...btw I see the Spendor is british. Sorry I don't care for brit sound. But I'll give them a fair and unbias hearing tomorrow.

How funny that in the same sentence you first state your bias and then promise to be unbiased. :)

Anyway, I shall look forward to your review of Spendor S8e. If you are going to a dealership and see this message in time, also try to listen to Spendor SP1/2e, that is the similarly priced model in the "classic" line that some like better.

FWIW, the Adagio review is available online at :

http://www.upscaleaudio.com/updates/tasadagio.pdf

www.upscaleaudio.com/updates/tasadagio.pdf

I have not been able to locate the Tyler review online.

i have talked to TY many times and told him he needs a speaker in the $8000.00 price. this would fill in the void between the floor standing linbrook signature and the woodmere. i suggested a smaller version of the woodmere that would have the same balance look in a smaller cabinet with two 8 in. seas woofers. there is to much price difference between the linbrook signature and the woodmere. the $8000.00 price is attractive especially for someone in the $10,000.00 price range but does not have room for the size of the woodmere. i suggested that he use the cabinet design of the woodmere. any input from anyone??
i currently own woodmere's and linbrook sig. monitors on ty stands. i think that it would have been better to see a d'apolitto design speaker from ty reviewed. they seem to integrate well in rooms and sound great when properly set up.
its interesting that ROBERT E. GREENE is a fan of TY'S speakers especially the woodmere's when he heard them at the 2005 THE SHOW. it was good at least to see ty's speakers reviewed without having a "advertising connection"

regards

BILL L.

First off, as to Spendor... I love Tyler speakers, but actually I think Spendors tend to appeal to many of the same qualities Tyler owners crave. I was *very* impressed with the Spendors I heard earlier this year. If Sallie prefers the 8se, I can definitely see where she is comming from (even if I don't agree with her) as the Spendor sound is quite addictive IMO.

As for the Adagios, I too would have liked to see a comparison to the Linbrook System II, because I think the speakers rated about equally to my ears when I recently heard the Adagios (very impressive speakers, BTW). As they shared many of the same qualities I enjoy, an outside opinion would have been interesting to read.

As to the Tyler pricing... I agree the "list pricing" should probably be deleted as the speakers are not even sold retail as was mentioned. I, howver, believe the "list prices" are in many cases far *below* what the speakers would sell for at retail (the driver and crossover component costs alone could merit much higher list prices based on normal markups). That said, the price is the price... It probably would be better just to list the actual selling price to consumers as opposed to all of the pricing confusion on the brand. Ty never claimed to be the best Marketer, but I can say that the speakers have a way of selling themselves through their sound quality and owner word of mouth. As such, I would say he has spent his time more wisely focusing on design, sound and build quality. Not a bad tradeoff if you ask me. :-)

---Dave