Vinshine/Alibaba..What to buy and where?

Is it wise to pay the extra money for a Denafrips ares 2 from Vinshine in Singapore vs getting it cheaper through Alibaba site? Don't want to pay more than I have to,  but don't want to get ripped off or receive counterfeit cloned merchandise, etc.

Once I figure out where to buy, what's the best bang for the buck of the Denafrips ares 2,  Ares2 12th edition,  used chord qutest, RME ADI -2, etc.

I'm looking for a more musical style dac than ultra clinical revealing sound, and budget is in the $1,000 dollar range unless I can get 90% of that sound for $300 from Geshelli labs. Thoughts???


Anything from the Alibaba site is NOT an official Vinshine product. There are many knock off products out in the wild, wild, East. Lots of mass production where excess is sold off to unscrupulous competitors. Buyer beware.

All the best,

Although I moved on from the one Denafrips DAC that I owned, and have mixed feelings about the company, Alvin of Vinshine provided superb customer service, and I would recommend that option without hesitation.

Buy from Vinshine.  Alvin runs a great business and takes care of Denafrips owners. As to what to buy, I think the Ares 2 is a fantastic DAC, especially with the latest firmware.

I bought a Denafrips Pontus 12 anniversary last month from Vinshine. I could not be more pleased with it. I think the brand and supplier are worth the extra expense. Chinese counterfeit goods are a real problem. Why take the risk? If one wants to get a cheaper price, buy a second hand unit from someone who can prove they bought it new from Vinshine.

be very very careful with alibaba -- it is truly the wild west, so to speak (in the east of course lol)... i would rather buy off of ebay than alibaba... if a seller on alibaba sends you blatantly fake sh*t you are totally at their mercy if you are in the usa or canada