Was my friend given misinformation.


My friend is just getting into audio for a music system. In his price rang I thought the Rogue Sphinx V3 would be a nice choice. He could also look at the Revel Concerta 2 line of speakers. Well he decided to stop by Magnolia at Best Buy.  Not a bad setup he got a Denon 3700 AVR and a pair of B&W 603's. He said the salesman told him to stay away from integrated amps as they are not anything but stripped down AVR's without the features. So I guess all us owners of 2 channel preamps and integrated have been duped. Who knew??

luxmancl38
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   The AVR is a POS, it has too many features, it has no place in a serious system, it's a bad system, it's a joke, etc.

Glad you understand.

it seems to me that your friend is trying to build a Home Theater system. there are  2 positive things , speakers can be bi-amped and Denon Audyssey MultEQ XT32(room correction soft with microphone ) adjusts the speakers to the best sound . I suggest you to go and listen . and maybe help to set it up correctly. you might be in for a surprise . and please let us know

The OP said his friend was getting into music.  The BB salesperson did him a solid.  He will be able to appreciate swapping out the Denon for a used Adcom or NAD something with guts and current to drive the speakers. 

The Denon/B&W mix might be one of the better combos available at Best Buy. If he gets enough taste of what hi-fi can do, he might be back to ask some questions or maybe like my friend that has had the same stuff for 40 years? Hard to tell.

I'm an audiophile as I'm sure most of you here are and have some really nice two channel systems but when I first started out and not knowing anything I bought a Denon AVR and B&W speakers. The point is that I watched "you've go mail" with this set up and some of the songs played on the DVD made my hair stand up on the back of my neck. They sounded really great. I no longer would consider an AVR of any kind but your friend could have stumbled into a little luck by accident that definitely wasn't the salesman's fault. We should also consider that he might have auditioned them first (not in Walmart I'm sure but I'm not familiar with Magnolia)