What should I expect moving from MM to MC?


I understand it depends on the setup, so I'll start here. I'm starting small (in my quest for music Nirvana!):

  • Denon PMA-600NE (70W, dedicated analog wiring, also a "source direct" feature that by passes the bass/treble/balance circuitry)
  • Klipsch RP-500M bookshelves
  • Klipsch 12" Sub
  • Mofi Studiodeck turntable

 

I was considering moving from my Sumiko Olympia MM cartridge to the Sumiko Blue Point No.3 MC Hi. 

 

Nothing but praise for the Blue Point in all reviews. But will I noticeably hear a clearer, fuller, warmer sound? Or is it a waste on money, focus elsewhere.

Thanks in advance!

 

mucker

warmer and fuller are not necessarily what lomc carts bring to the table.  you will get a cleaner, more refined sound which is abig step up in quality from most mm cartridges. also because of the lower moving mass an mc is typically more dynamic and full of life and musical energy.  think huge crescendos and fast musical transitions.  

many people who want warmer and fuller sound have system issues to fix and are trying to mask a lack of refinement.  start with perfecting your speaker positioning.  

mucker the type of question you ask is really answered by hearing things for yourself.

As you can see, you will get responses that equate to yes, no, maybe, sort of, no because of...yes, because of...I worked  for me, it didn't work for me...

Get the drift?

All the cartridge types can so "good." Just have a decent setup to make it shine, so your ears can decide. 

@mucker with a phono preamp, you connect your TT into the inputs of your phono preamp. The outputs from your phono preamp go to a line stage input on your Denon. Not the phono inputs. 

I really appreciate all of the replies. I’ve learned a LOT, just from this one topic. Many of your responses have inspired me to do a little more online research, which leads to more investigation and research. All in all you’ve set me on a good course. Let’s face it: I’m a budget hi-fi/audiophile. Some of you have cables that cost more than my entire setup.

 

I’m starting with the Schiitt pre-amp that should arrive here in a few days. I’ll play around with that and listen to a lot of vinyl to compile my impression of where I am at that point.

If necessary, I’ll probably dabble with a better cartridge, hopefully something MC so I can hear what all the hubbub is about. My Olympia is a $200 cart, and one website said I should probably pair my $1,000 TT with something closer to the $400-$500 range. Many good suggestions in this post worth looking into.

Finally, and it probably won’t come to this, but I can always upgrade speakers. I mean, who can’t (or doesn’t like doing so)?

I’m also learning that my misconception on the frequency range of the cartridge isn’t as important as I had originally thought. 20hz-20khz covers what I can hear. So it comes down to tonal qualities, fullness and clarity. This opens my eyes to a much broader range of potential upgrades in cartridges.

Thanks again. I may be old, but I’m still learning.

@karl_desch 1++. The Blue Point is not the world's best tracker. Soundsmith cartridges are renown for their tracking ability and detail. A high output Soundsmith like the Otello or the Carmen if you can afford it would be excellent choices another would be the Goldring 1042 is another excellent high output cartridge. It has the same stylus as a $16,000 Clearaudio Goldfinger.