Where s the bass?

Liguy - I don't play loud and 60 watts is enough power for typical music listening level - and that's what I used to compare BAT vs PASS; not to play as loud as each amps can play, but play them at comfortable level.

Briweve - perhaps you're right on your post that amplifiers from Krell and other brands (BAT in my experience) are tuned to deliver more energy to improve the bottom end. We will never find out the true. It's a fact that certain brands sound warmer than other. It could be that Pass is more neutral than Krell and BAT. I hate to think that Pass lacks the power at the bottom end.

Sean - I don't have any room acoustics treatment - just typical dry-walls and tile floor. Do I need sound absorber? What kind? I guess there are different kinds to either absorb low or high frequency. I don't want my room to look like an acoustics chamber.

Tai- As mentioned, speaker placement, listening position, and room treatments are all necessary areas to consider with your current problem. Having owned them at one time, might I suggest that you try other cables as well. This is not a jab at Transparent, just that I too felt a similar lack of weight with the Trans Reference. They are, as the name implies, very transparent and articulate, but I found them to be tonally shifted upward, lacking the foundation in the mid to lower bass in my system (Spectral, at that time). If you want cables with networks, check out the top products from MIT. Otherwise, try some other cables, including power cords. Good luck.

Tai: Those are some speakers. There's an article by Thiel about placement:

http://www.thielaudio.com/THIEL_Web/Pages/faqplacement.html

But before you go buying sub woofers what about some treatment? Some form of weight on the top of the speaker? Can you put some cushions behind your head where the tweeter and mid pass by? If you have a tile floor try a couple of cushions on the floor at the mirror point with the tweeter. I just think with those kind of speakers you should just try a little treatment.
Regards,

on the cheap, go to a carpet supply place and get a remnant - industrial office grey is nice - then cut it to whatever size you like...you will be astounded!

I think its kind of funny how Tai spends $20.000.plus on amp and pre. Then 500 on a sony.The pass stuff well show what that sony lacks right away.Or any $20.000 rig well do the same..
I stated the one weak link is the sony..Its not a put down to Tai,the question was asked and i gave a response..Someone thinks thats worth -2 0 on rate this post
You mean to tell me no one else thinks a $500 sony cd is a mismatch on a rig like that..get a life
Tai see if you can audition a $3-4000 cd system and then see
if your bass improves
steve