Pa-5 and Pa-7 are different, soundwise. Not to continue trashing the PA-7s, but for what is worth, it does not sound horrible, per se, but it does not have the stamina to be expected for the mass of the amp. There are those out there that swear by the PA-7..for what I remember, when I connected to some towered speakers, with a decent preamp, SFL-2 and NOS...with a trio of racing cones, underneath the Nak, it did have a certain slam, that other amps, more expensives amps did not have. Just remember, the amp is worth about 700-1000 used, and how many amps out there that are about 15 years old can hold such a value in the used market? Good as a back up amp, but never as the ultimate reference, I will say. Careful to expect them to produce current, they cannot.