WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?


It seems like when I see comments on high end gear there is a lot of negativity. I have been an audiophile for the last 20 years. Honestly, if you know how to choose gear and match gear a lot of the high end gear is just better. When it comes to price people can charge what they want for what they create. If you don’t want it. Don’t pay for it. Look if you are blessed to afford the best bear and you can get it. It can be very sonically pleasing. Then do it. Now if you are also smart and knowledgeable you can get high end sound at mid-fi prices then do it. It’s the beauty of our our hobby. To build a system that competes with the better more expensive sounding systems out there. THOUGHTS?

calvinj

I did not need these programs because i only use homemade solutions and i dont buy cables or costly tweaks or costly gear upgrade...

It is way easier to use simple blind tests multiple time in the working optimization context way easier and more useful than ONE public stage show ... Anyway i see no valid reason to use that with my modified 10 bucks Schumann generators now for example ,save to convince you after a public test to buy some 😊...And anything is further from my intention than arguing with people about qualitative effect i gain from my device in specific constrainted acoustic context and pushing them toward expansive devices i ask for experiments in their private home at low cost ... I see it as a meaningless crusade asking for more for the average people out of a laboratory ... Sorry...

You answered all my argument save the main one : I favor multiple simple blind tests in the same acoustical context and relax routine of the listener-tweaker and i dont see the need for most audiophile of anything more save for the scientific laboratory of the industry or for objectivist crusaders show ...

You completely put aside my point about aural memory and routine behaviour in a known environment  and put aside completely the difference between a step by step incremental process of multiple changes of parameters and devices in a known acoustical working environment and a public stage show about a singular minute change out of any known habitual working context ... Simple ...

For aural memory and behaviour :

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-023-04675-8

Common sense dictate such observations i made ... Repeating your line as a preacher dont change common sense ...

 

no I don’t see it. There are programs that allow users to easily do ABX DBTs. And it’s not “against an audiophile’s claims.” ABX DBTs are not for or against any claims.

I can add to my point after the article i mention above about the aural memory this interesting french doctoral thesis titled :

Acoustic characterization of relationships between
biological movements and sound perception:
application to the control of synthesis and
learning gestures by Etienne Thoret

https://theses.hal.science/tel-01105122/document

There is no singular storage memory place in the body, it is not localized and not decoupled from the general set of gestures in our habit behaviour... We remember the best what we had learned to produce in our daily context or routine especially when associated with an emotional content experience ... ...

Then the difference between a device and his absence for a meaningful evaluation of his effect need a context which is not alien to our daily routine and interpretation context to be valuable, the opposite of what ideological objectivist ask for systematically for any small difference which is beyond ridiculous ...

It is why simple blind test in work specific stages in a personal journey work better than public double blind test on a stage theater ...

I did my work , i dont ask other people to put a show to make a point...

i trained my ears without the need to prove anything ... My acoustical musical experience is enough ...I dont sell products nor did i sell an ideology ...

 

 

 

it should tell you I’m in China. Did you figure that out? 

It doesn't matter where in the world you reside as all posts are in chronological order received (CST). Do you think anyone fell for that? Like I said earlier, you think in funny ways.

All the best,
Nonoise

There is a big difference between double blind test public protocol and simple blind test in private setting used in your own audio optimization process in an incremental number of steps , with all the time you want , all the repetition you wanted , with the music you pick which is well known to you ( for me albums i know for fifty years) and within an acoustic set of conditions you have put yourself together and which you know very well, all this in complete relaxation...

I agree with ya....I wouldn’t agree to any kind of blind whatever in some random dude’s closet with random tracks back to back. I have done blindtests in my room, where i know a) the resolution of this room is quite high, i.e. i’ve got the acoustic fields ACDA panels that deliver resolution levels a notch above anything i’ve heard (some of Dennis Foley’s proprietary stuff). Anyways, audible differences in cables are quite subtle above a certain quality threshold of build/layup/materials and you need a high resolution room to hone in on such subtleties. b) There are 2 instruments i’ve been playing for... coming up on 40 years. On specific tracks that i know very well which showcase these instruments, i am a highly skilled listener (understandably) for this purpose.

Eitherway, I did it primarily just to see the look on a ASR cult member’s face and aid with his subsequent rehabilitation. There were 2 other dudes observing the whole spectacle and laughing hysterically when i hit the 20/20 times. 😁 ASR dude probably thought me a voodoo practitioner/grand wizard as he walked out in defeat.

There is a YT channel called Alpha Audio where a couple of geeks do all kinds of listening tests, measurements, etc on different tweaks (fairly entertaining). I bet the ASR cult goes nuts when it sees that channel.