Why pay so much for super high end?


Most speakers costing $50,000+ use Seas, Scan Speak or Accuton.

In DIY forums most speakers designed use bargain drivers and usually are only 2.0 designs not bookshelf or center speakers to complete a surround system.

I’d love to have a Scan Speak 11 speaker system for atmos with 3 way bookshelves, center and floorstanders.

Why aren’t the designs out there and why are you guys pissing away all your money.

Personally I won’t get an upgrade from my speakers unless it’s of this caliber and neither can I afford nor want to donate money to these thieves.

A 3rd party 11 speaker atmos scan Speak system would be nice but I’m not spending $250,000.

Why on earth aren’t there designs out there for this and why do you all piss away your money?

I don’t get why hi fi isn’t all DIY even honest factory direct companies mark up 300%.

Unless you pull in $1+ million a year and don’t have any time I don’t get it.

Are you guys lazy?

Someone easily could design a great crossover and cabinets for everyone and the days of paying over $3,500 for a pair of loud speakers if you got some time or know a friend who could build cabinets would be over. I know of people who could design cabinets that rival $100,000 speakers and cost less than 1% than that.  Someone with some experience could easily design a diamond, beryllium and soft dome and various versions for various tastes.

I don’t get it. Speakers are so simple.  Crossovers cabinets and drivers.

You guys just throw your money away I don’t understand it why?


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Please admit that you had nothing better to do with your saturday. What else would you do, read the news? That might throw you over the brink.
Accurate assessment of the the state of high-end. However great speakers aren't a dime a dozen. 
The mark of a truly great speaker is how it sounds to the ear over the test of time.  Some actually get better to the ear some worse. Still, all subjective.
Patience is the virtue of virtues in high end. Get some ASAP if the high end is your bag and it'll pay off. I did and the only way to enjoy high end. Go figure.
Its a big joke anyway isn't it, just like your trying to say.
There are many brands that are as hood as name brands .such as Viva, peerless
Usher, seas they all have very good models that have great specs,even scan speak, has lesser models that are as good in older models for far less money's.
It I'd how they measure ,then implemented in the Heart if the speaker the Xover
By far the one area to blAmerica. I have learned long ago for example
In the vast majority of Loudspeakers , as well as amplifiers,preamps.
Using Solen capacitors , and in many cases even cheaper Chinese capacitors
And those white sand cast resistors.
I just upgraded what was considered a good speaker in the Salk Budd Fried tribute
Loudspeaker, which could be bought with premium Xover parts.
I went from stock Solen caps to Mundorf supreme  then to VH oimp caps . 
And Path resistors. it total transformed these Loudspeakers, I then put The same VH oimp  caps in the preamp coupling caps ,and output in my Pass F6 amp .
The whole system increase across the board well over 10%. which is a Huge jump
In any Audiophile system for only $1200 in parts labor was maybe 600.
My advise if buying new find out what quality parts are in your loudspeaker before hand, if Average capacitors like Solen , ask for a upgrade,mils or Mundorf hood resistors ,best are Duelund,and Path audio my favorite , and good Copper inductors Sally use Jantzen which are very good. buying used electronics research in Manhattan amps especially Mcintosh use red square Wima caps ok at best 
Many capaciyors such as VH audio, Mundorf , Audyn, Jupiter, Duelund just for 
A small example .buy used electronics have upgraded transform your unit for 
Less then buying new.
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So Wilson Benesch spent 250,000 pounds sterling to develop a good driver for their speakers. Sounds like the kind of speaker development that audiophiles would like to see more of. I would think. 


Sounds real audio...scan Speak has been around since 1970 and spends just as much on their research and development. They’re under an umbrella that also owns audio technology (skanning) and dynaudio. Their drivers are used in commercial designs costing several times over $100,000 and get the "I want to mortgage my house for these" type of reviews. Their D3004 tweeter (fabric and especially their berrylium) is usually used when someone wants the best tweeter on earth. Skanning woofers are used in the most expensive Sonus Faber speakers. Many people consider Scan Speak’s 4.5" midrange as the best on earth. In a few years once I feel comfortable to drop about $12,500 on speakers I’m building an 11 speaker atmos setup with DBX Venu loudspeaker management components (digital crossover, equalization, etc all in one device) which far exceeds even the best most expensive passive crossover technology in fideltiy by a lot and costs a fraction the price. I will laugh and get off from the fact that people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for performance less than that I’ll have. I’d build the subwoofer too but SVS actually did something very special with the PB16 ultra at a reasonable price. Dual of them makes Wilson Thor’s Hammer and subwoofers of the likes seem like ginger beer for 90% less. I’ll just have to pay an expert to setup the DBXs and make me some designs for cabinets. Far far easier than designing a crossover. Far easier. Worth it!


I forgot to mention that in the title...designing a fantastic cabinet isn’t all that complex. You could pay one of the few DIY experts that are on the Internet such as HTGUIDE some money to design cabinets for you and then just use an active crossover. That’s one of the advantages about DIY is using loudspeaker management devices like DBX Venu 360s. No passive crossover on earth can touch them and having an expert set them up in an afternoon and it’s easy peasy japanesey. You’d have complete  control over your loudspealer with 31 band or parametric equalizers and crossovers and set delays...basically a true flat response way better than passive and without the passive components degrading the sound quality which they do not matter how good they are. Build speakers not only comparable to 6 figure speakers but better and it's not....that.....hard.  But by all means sheep waste your money on  $20,000 or $50,000 speakers and feel super cool instead of having something better for a few thousand dollars that requires a few hours of fun work.