Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

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I got that impression because that is effectively what you wrote. While things are screwed up here, wrt free speech and free thought, no, it has not been screwed up here till somewhat recently. Now we have both sides trying to screw each other. How is that working out?

JK Rowling was not blown out of proportion, nor is the issue with female athletes competing with trans people. This is mainstream news including JK. Do you have any female friends?

There are not some people unaware. There are whole countries of people, 100's of millions of people if not billion+ totally unaware, and should be aware. That is where censorship leads. It is and had always been about control.

Mahgister is an adult and you seem as worked up as him.

@deludedaudiophile  You're arguing for more government regulation and I would need to see what form they would take before I could offer an opinion.

However, what I don't think is acceptable, is that you and an outraged mob, lobby Hobby Lobby's bank, which I consider an essential service, effectively infrastructure, such that the bank feels pressured to drop them as a client

I'm not sure how this could be enforced.  Banks are in the business of making money. They're not going to drop a client or refuse service unless the alternative causes them to lose more money than dropping the client. If the government says no you can't drop Hobby Lobby  but the banks alternative is going to cost them more. I don't understand how this type of structure would work unless the government basically runs the bank. 

100 people have 100% of the capital in a bank.

The bank does business with a company 80 of these people feel goes against their personal beliefs so they threaten to withdraw their money.

Does the bank drop the company or let the 80 people leave and how would the government enforce this? 

How is the alternative going to cost them more?  It will right now, but if companies in critical infrastructure cannot drop clients then there would be no downside as you can't drop them, so you can't be blamed for having them as a client.

 

The problem is monopolistic corporate power and neo liberalism... Not the question if there is too much or not enough regulations... Money and power dont keep roots in a country...

This is a world wide crisis not only an American empire decline problem ..

Most people look at a tree and are unable to fathom what the forest is it seems...

I dont speak for you djones but for all of us...

You’re arguing for more government regulation and I would need to see what form they would take before I could offer an opinion.

 

Interstate commerce has given us a lot of government regulations concerning anti discrimination laws but I'm at a loss as to how the commerce clause can be used to do what you're advocating to prop up free speech without causing a real mess. I and any number of like minded people can come together and try to force businesses to change their behavior. Businesses will decide based on economic reasons what their response will be. I can't see the government taking away my free speech right to speak with my Dollars while allowing business to speak with theirs.