“The album was mixed to half-inch analog tape, at the very end of the project to give it warmth. So despite the fact that the first CD’s were issued with a ‘DDD’ marking, it was actually ‘DAD.’ In a blindfold test in Amigo Studio B, Frank Wolf, Jennifer, Henry Lewy, and myself, all chose half-inch analog tape over every digital mix format available that we could test—the Sony 1610, Sony 1630, and a Mitsubishi X-80 2-track digital recorder that used ¼-inch tape.” Italics this time for emphasis. The CD was DAD. The LP was DAA. Also the conventional wisdom would dictate that four speakers spread all over the room wouldn’t "mate" or "synch up" with the mains, or wouldn’t be "phase coherent" or whatever. Instead of what you really get, which is clean, fast, precise, solidly anchored and seamlessly integrated with the mains. And that goes whether run stereo or mono. |
Agree with you @noble100 regarding the mix of tones that make up realistic bass response.
Rather reminds me of how adding a supertweeter improves bass definition and impact, by cleaning up the leading edges it gives immediacy and greater realism.
The theory that it’s all about the fundamental frequency is only a tiny part of the puzzle - improving both the full frequency range and the ability of the system to resolve subtle room cues will do much more to improve bass quality than adding any subwoofer (which 9 times out of 10 will mess up the room if it’s been previously optimized for a sub less setup) |
Hi Chuck,
I was just wondering if we hijacked this thread. We haven't heard from the OP. jazz99/Paul, for awhile now.On his last post on 3/1/19 he stated: "I suppose one has to make a decision at some point, so will try to decide (after auditioning) between the SVS SB1000 and the JL Audio Dominion D110, which is unfortunately twice the price (but perhaps twice as nice)." Sorry Paul, we seemed to have got sidetracked discussing dbas. I really would like to still help if I can.
What's your current thinking?
Tim
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Dear @noble100 : ""
combining a very good mono 4-sub bass dba system with a very good pair of stereo speakers for the mids and treble results in a very natural, very realistic, palpable full range sound stage that I perceive as stereo and lif-like from top to bottom.
This supports the theory, which I believe we both agree with, that the higher frequency harmonics of those bass drum whacks reproduced by our l+r main speakers provides the necessary spatial clues to determine exactly where the individual bass drums are located within the 3d sound stage image. """
I'm running my subs in true stereo fashion and never listen it wired mono but I will do this week ( I hope can do it. ).
In the other side that " theory " about harmonics room/system " effect " maybe needs and additional " theory "/explanation and I said this because:
in that Telarc 1812 LP recording the lowes bass frequency was/is 6hz and that says that the first 3 harmonics still " happens through the subs and maybe the 4th starts to be reproduce by the mains speakers. In other recordings like the Dafos LP things performs the same and the position of the bass source is always anchored at the same position even that the higher harmonics to that very low bass fundamental arrives with low SPL against the fundamental/lower harmonics SPL's.
I don't know what you can coment about or other gentlemans .
Btw, I think the OP as me and other readers are learning a lot in this thread dialogue in a main and critical subject as is the " bass room/system/brain management ".
R. |
jazz99
Hi Paul,
I was just wondering if we hijacked your thread. We haven’t heard from you for awhile now. On your last post on 3/1/19 you stated: "I suppose one has to make a decision at some point, so will try to decide (after auditioning) between the SVS SB1000 and the JL Audio Dominion D110, which is unfortunately twice the price (but perhaps twice as nice)."
Sorry Paul, we seemed to have got sidetracked discussing dbas but I’d really like to still help if I can.
Any updates on your sub search? What’s your current thinking?
Tim
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