Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Thanks Teajay and Branimir.
I'm currently using the EMM-modified transport and I'm -not- getting great bottom-end extension or low-frequency energy. The foundation and substructure of my soundstage is missing and I'm not getting all the low-frequency ambient cues, spatial information, and details that I know should be there. [I use four 250 watt monoblocks and I have a pair of REL subs but they just aren't receiving this low frequency info from my front end]. The little CEC TL-51X did a much better job in this area than my current transport. With the right transport and DAC I know I can get what I'm looking for without changing anything else in my system.
It goes without saying that the EMM transport would help quite a bit but I'm thinking that I still might be wanting a more category #2 sound.
I've read three reviews of the Weiss gear that specifically mention this frequency range as a particular strength.
I'm also interested in trying some of the non-upsampling, no-filter DACs to see how they do in this area.
Teajay and Branimir, thanks.
I responded in detail but it doesn't look like it has appeared in the thread for some reason?
Exlibris, I am glad that we could help... Your specific problem is not unique-it remined me to the sound of dCS P8i player(thin and sometimes too tight in the bass). I am not saying that you should give up from your EMMLabs DCC2-far from it. CDSD is probably the best solution and you can add CEC(used TL-1x or new TL-51x) as a second transport.
Also, maybe you have some cable issues-what cables are you using all the way through out your system?
Weiss combo is very energetic sounding and is having best bass that I heard from digital so far( only best Esoteric D-01/P-01/G-0s combo was that powerful in bass) but, it is #1 flavor(although I think rather #1.5).
I use Acoustic Zen "Absolute" cables. I've tried some 'bass rich' cables but found them to be wanting in other areas.
I use the EMM Labs "ST Glass" optical connection between my digital stuff. I suppose I could use other cables but then I would be using my transport's clock rather than my DAC's clock.