Jazz for aficionados

Ghosthouse, I use the word "drama" to express excitement; something is happening that makes you want to move, you can feel the music. Sonny Clark seems to always have this element in his music, it is in constant motion, and often causes you to visualize something.


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brmFaZfRZQE


In this tune, titled "Search For The New Land" I can visualize someone using their hand for a visor, on a ship, searching for the new land. Modern dancers, choreographers, could really do a thing to this number.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBLYYbDuLIo



Enjoy the music.

O - thanks for the links.  Seems like we are coming at "drama" with different expectations.  I listened to the Sonny Clark.  The playing is great - John C. just can't help himself being Coltrane ! can he??  :-) and there is something about trombone that just works so well in a jazz setting... thank you Curtis Fuller but that particular piece didn't hook me.  Much prefer the Lee Morgan "Search....".  It has a moody quality to it and draws me in.  Pretty certain you have mentioned this recording before.  Is the LM/SFTNL dramatic to me?  Yeah, maybe, I think so...more than the Sonny Clark but I still feel like I'm stretching to hear what you hear w/r to "drama".  That's not a shot at your examples.  How we hear is at least partly (maybe a big "partly")  dependent on our histories.  I gotta keep listening and when I find something that hits the spot, drama-wise I'll share.

Frogman - I found your comments about Invisible Cinema spot on.  We are hearing similar things in that recording (even to the extent I thought there was something not quite right about how the bass part was in the first and second tracks...maybe it's the drums that were bugging me!).  Gratified you spent time checking it out.  Aaron Parks was a "child phenom" and just coming into his own now.  Some helpful interviews and bio info on the web  Funny on your ECM comment.  Cinema was a Blue Note recording but his (latest?) Arborescence is on ECM.  Especially loved your point contrasting Metheny.  All in all, well articulated as were your  comments about Pasqua/Antisocial Club.

For me, both these recordings are getting a lot of listening time AND the artists have led me to other new music they are associated with.  Thank you both for your time, energy and helpful comments.      

Ghosthouse, I must be using the wrong word. The purpose of language is to communicate; if a word means one thing to you and another to me in regard to music, we need to find another word.

The piece that didn't hook you is one of my absolute favorites, and has been for a long time; I even have 6 different vocal versions of it that I play a lot. Here is one of them by Carmen.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaZlb2wxJJg




That is a perfect illustration of the "subjectivity" of music. Yes I have used it before; in this instance I was trying to illustrate the visual nature of that piece.

Eventually we'll find the right words.




Enjoy the music.

Fyi, checked links in question with no problems here, but I have a Mac. I have sent a few post by phone with no known issue.

Latter

The Sonny Clark clip is, without a doubt, one of the best things ever posted here. Classic hard bop by some of the best that ever played the music. GREAT feel and a lot of attention paid to really nuanced ensemble playing; not always heard to that degree on "all-star" sessions. Trane sounds absolutely incredible. His tone is, for me, at that point when it was clear that he had made a clear departure from the more traditional tenor sound and was headed to a pretty far-out place; but, was still not totally committed to the screaming, take no prisoners tonal expression that would soon come. Great clip.

However, I don’t really understand a comparison to something like the Aaron Parks’ brand of jazz. For me, it’s apples and oranges. Re drama: like all couples, my dear wife and argue sometimes (😉). In the heat of the moment, she says I raise my voice. Me? Imagine that! She, gets quiet. (From my previous post:) "quiet simmering, brooding". Drives her crazy when I point out that is her way of "raising her voice". Drama in both. Thanks for the clip, O-10.