What is more accurate , the fozgometer or the diplay of the oscilloscoop


Would like to know sure about the azimuth of the cartridge ,a visual check first ,than the result of the fozgo , just a bit differance between the left and right channel , than both channels in mono , green led and a little shiny of the red led for the right side .Than looking at the display of my techtronix dual beam oscilloscoop , both channels 
even , no differance in amplitude . Playing a piece of music , perfect ! What is true ? Can you adjust your cartridge with the fozgo with results in the description ? Ofcourse I did the calibration of the fozgo.

hansk46
Doing it by ear sounds like a good idea, but I would only do it as a last resort. First, it requires a fair amount of experience and practice to get good at it. Its far easier and faster for someone who's never done it before to just use a DMM. As long as the DMM is a quality unit, it will be more accurate than going by ear. There's no guesswork involved. When you're done, you know its right.

There's other factors to consider as well. The article you reference talks about tuning the room to compensate for the azimuth being off. Again, at first glance it sounds like a good idea, but its not. When room tuning is brought up, the first thing you usually think about is tuning the room vs eq/processing. There's a downside to using an eq because you're fooling with the signal in ways that can have a big effect on SQ. There's no downside to adjusting the azimuth directly. If its off, adjusting it will always be a positive thing. If you choose to leave the azimuth alone and use an indirect method of adjustment, you now have 2 problems. First, if the azimuth is off due to the stylus not being perpendicular to the top of the cart body, you still have the crosstalk. Fooling with external factors to get a center image can't eliminate the crosstalk, so its only a partial fix. Second, what do you do if you have more than one source? If you play a CD, now that's going to be off because you made proprietary adjustments meant for your TT only. When you make changes to your room, they apply to all sources, not just one. 
While a fozgometer can get you in the ball park you still benefit from fine tuning by ear - the method I prefer and the rationale for it is detailed here 

http://www.durand-tonearms.com/Support/Support/azimuth.html
My now retired piano tuner did everything by ear and he did an awesome job.  My current (younger aged) piano tuner does everything with electronic instruments with equally good results.  Moral of the story, today's electronic instruments have the ability to replace years of training, skill, and talent. Today we have options. 
" My now retired piano tuner did everything by ear and he did an awesome job.  My current (younger aged) piano tuner does everything with electronic instruments with equally good results.  Moral of the story, today's electronic instruments have the ability to replace years of training, skill, and talent. Today we have options."

I don't see how any of that applies here. Not only that, the last 2 sentences are just plain wrong (unless there's a communication issue and I don't understand your statement as you meant it.). An azimuth adjustment is in no way similar to tuning a piano. Azimuth is an angle. It has nothing to do with music, and its either right or wrong. You may be able to get it partially adjusted by ear, or maybe by sight, but to get the best results, measurements need to be taken.

As for the rest of it, unless you're talking about specific areas where certain electronics may be able to do a better job than the ear, you may have something. If you mean it to be a blanket statement, its not even close to being true. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how to measure timber. 

@mb1audio02 -- unfortunately you’re plain wrong when it comes to measuring azimuth using a test tone and whatever instruments you choose. As Joel notes in the piece I linked to crosstalk is not consistent with frequency and unless you have the time and patience to measure at multiple frequencies setting by ear will give the best results

There have been other methods suggested in the past. A particularly popular one was offered byVictor Khomenko in the late 90s and seems to have been widely accepted since. In our experiments, we’ve found that, while this method works very well at a given frequency (most people seem to use a 1 KHz tone for this purpose), it is unfortunately not consistent throughout the frequency range found in music. We discovered that after adjusting the azimuth for perfect balance at 1 KHz with this method, voltage readings with a 100 Hz and a 8 KHz tone give widely different results; one channel would be greatly emphasized at the lower frequency, and the other one at the higher frequency. So while the method is theoretically sound, it fails to address the reality of the musical signal, which is far more complex than a single sine tone. So, until a better and more reliable method is established, our ears will do nicely... and they’re free...
Additional note: to be fair, it has been suggested that crosstalk is not constant on all cartridges. Some cartridges (a few?) demonstrate excellent consistency across their frequency range, while many don’t. For what it’s worth...

ps for measuring timber I’ve found a tape measure works quite well 😏 , measuring timbre requires a depth of musical experience and a good ear, no electronics can help here