Help... my turntable is alive!

Where's my previous post!!!!!!!?????!!

Now that you have highlighted the need I rather like the expressions positive/negative VTA. In fact I plan to drop them into casual conversation as often as possible. ;^)
Have a nice day.

Bill

I’ve just been told my earlier post was deleted by a Moderator.

As far as I can recall it was well reasoned and explanatory without abuse or profanity.

I’ll show part of it recreated (with updates) as well as I can recall here :

I fail to understand the problem you (Cleeds) have with the words “negative & positive” in relation to a tonearm’s VTA setting to the extent that you would accuse me of being “ignorant” or “embarrassed”.

If you were a pilot, height/altitude can be expressed as a positive (above sea level) , zero (sea level) and a negative value (below sea level – some airports are a few feet below sea level). Why would you object to people out there applying a similar “convention” to describe the height of a tonearm pivot or arm tube? Also why would you take the reference point "zero" on the Y axis to be associated with a cantilever? I didn't mention cantilevers at all and would challenge you to show me where in this thread?

This “convention” was NEVER directly associated with the cartridge. Why are you trying to make out that it is?

Cleeds said :

“…had the OP initially properly set his VTA, he wouldn't have had his phono cartridge bottom out in the first place.”

 

You’re the only one alleging that the OP did not “initially, properly set his VTA”. I’m sure the facts will become clear when the OP chooses to reveal them.

One clear erroneous assumption by you was equating the expression “NEGATIVE VTA” (SETTING) directly with a cartridge rather than a tonearm VTA adjuster. The context was clear, you ignored it.

Message ends.

Cleeds, it’s clear we’ll have to agree to disagree on this.

"Each to his own".

Bill.

moonglum

I’ve just been told my earlier post was deleted by a Moderator.

Perhaps because you engaged in insult rather than discussing the topic.

I fail to understand the problem you (Cleeds) have with the words “negative & positive” in relation to a tonearm’s VTA ... why would you take the reference point "zero" on the Y axis to be associated with a cantilever? I didn’t mention cantilevers at all and would challenge you to show me where in this thread?

This “convention” was NEVER directly associated with the cartridge.

VTA - Vertical Tracking Angle - is the angle between the cantilever (measured from the cantilever’s pivot to the stylus contact area) and the record surface. That is simply what it is.

One clear erroneous assumption by you was equating the expression “NEGATIVE VTA” (SETTING) directly with a cartridge rather than a tonearm VTA adjuster

VTA refers to the cartridge cantilever, by definition. That’s not an assumption on my part, but the actual meaning of the term. You prefer to ascribe your own definition to the term "VTA" for a purpose that defies reason, except perhaps to conceal your confusion on this topic.

cleeds you should stop it right here you are upsetting moonglum which makes him glum when that happens he writes something nasty about you and false about VTA and then the moderators have to delete it again and again as they have here. It is wasting everyones time as you have already figured out moonglum has his own definition of VTA that is different than everyone else’s and if you push him he just insists "everyone know’s what I’m talking about." He also has endless analogies about pilots and sealevel none of which make any sense but he will just keep this mindless banter going from the comfortable home of mommy’s basement where you are the only person interfering with his little world of made-up reality so please lets all leave moonglum alone we have probably hurt his self-esteem pretty badly.

moonglum you might want to google VTA and then you will find its definition and proper use.