Greatest Rock Drummers


Given the subject line many names come to mind such as  Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Phil Collins and Carl Palmer but, is Neil Peart the greatest rock drummer of all time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSToKcbWz1k
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I saw Jason Bonham recently and he does a really great job of replicating the feel of his father while also having his own style (slightly more modern feel being more on the beat). I agree that the feel of John Bonham is hard to replicate - he really does deliberately hit late (behind the beat) quite often and the feeling is like it is about to fall apart but always catching up -this gives the music a lot of movement - and, of course, the “1” is always where it is supposed to be (he knew what he was doing).

https://youtu.be/jz0XbcaO4xk
Speaking of famous drummers with famous drummer dads---Zak Starkey, while no Keith Moon (who is?!), is doing a great job in The Who.

jond’s nomination of Jim Keltner (of which I heartily approve and second) begs the question: what constitutes a "Rock" drummer? Before Keltner starting playing in The Playboys (Gary Lewis’ backing band) in the mid-60’s, he was, in his own words, a Jazz snob. He is Jazz guitarist Bill Frisell’s first call drummer (as well as Ry Cooder’s, and many other guitarists and songwriters), and does mostly studio work. Is he a "Rock" drummer? Does he even play what you consider Rock music?

The same can be asked about Steve Gadd, who has been working with Eric Clapton for years. I guess you could call Clapton’s music Rock, but Gadd was trained in rudiments and played in the Army/Navy Band during the Vietman War era (a good way to not have to go shoot or be shot at!). I just watched a documentary on Clapton’s 2014 World Tour, and Gadd played very few fills (the opposite of Neil Peart, who never passes up that opportunity), focusing on establishing the structure of each song, and creating the feel and groove of the band. Gadd is a fantastic drummer (one of the handful of best in the world, imo) who can, and does, play one of the best drum solos I’ve ever heard and seen. Very advanced technical ability, but he doesn’t feel the need to constantly prove it by over-playing, a rarity.

Seeing a Led Zeppelin tribute band live last night reminded me of just how guilty John Bonham was of over-playing (completely unnecessary fills which in no way advanced the song, and in fact just duplicated what someone else was playing), and how his style of playing was adopted by the vast majority of Rock drummers that followed him. Over-playing is by far the number one complaint about drummers by other musicians. Good ones, that is ;-) .

Check this is out

Changing or adding movement to a simple rock 1/8 note pattern to the odd triplet feel (by playing on the “e” of four instead of the “&”)

https://youtu.be/vl9188EPdLI

Simple but really effective! 

Often the genius things are simple but it takes a genius to know when it will work effectively!
Good video, and for the reason stated is why Ringo is such a musical drummer. Love how honest he is.

bdp, totally agree about Steve Gadd. Didn't know about the military band but clearly he was well schooled in rudiments. So true that he plays what the song requires, in contrast to Peart.

But I must disagree about Bonham's style with LZ. He wasn't overplaying, he was key in giving Zep their sound. What makes them so different than their contemporaries is that he was very often playing with the rhythm of the guitar, rather than the bass.