Zu Druid questions

Macro...I agree completely!! Why does this happen so frequently? I posted my impressions of the Zu's sound in comparison to the Ushers as the original posted requested...NO one else makes mention with the exception of Mondonitro about how the Ushers compare or that they heard them at all.

Look you are all entitled to your opinions and offer your suggestions, but lets keep to the posters query,and not make it a platform to grandstand your knowledge of speaker designing,, share scientific measurements that dont offer any help at all as to the sound of any speaker, much less a comparison of two differnt designs, or bash a very sucessful company (Zu) who got it right and still has many detractors who cry over that fact.. Im sure Mr. Jack Dotson is left scratching his head over all this...come on man!

Kehut,

The original poster said that the Druids "have peaked my interest". I didn't read that as excluding interest in all commentary other than a direct comparison with Usher and/or Klipsch speakers.

And... well, I don't know any other way to say this. Since when is talking about speaker design on the "Speakers" board in a thread about a speaker with an intriguing and mysterious design "grandstanding"?

Kehut, not everyone shares your belief system that "scientific measurements dont offer any help at all as to the sound of any speaker". (Have you run that by Sean and Adam?) I guess you missed it, but what I was doing was explaining to the best of my understanding (given the lack of published design details) how the Druids can still have decent-sounding bass when they measured 25 dB down at their rated low frequency limit (38 Hz) and have a similar notch at 150 Hz. On paper, that really is abysmal performance. Come on man indeed... I was trying to keep your speaker in the running in the eyes of someone who may still give science some credibility.

Duke

OK, I'll remember from now on:
No digressions from simple answers to simple questions.
Thanks for filling me in on the rules here.

I can only offer my opinion of the hour and a half I spent with Sean of Zu in his basement listening to the Druids. I was very impressed....enough so, that I am planning to buy a set....even though I work at a high end retailer and have access to virtually any other speaker out there.

My take on the "subjective/objective" debate that seems to pop its ugly head up a lot is that musical enjoyment is a taste. Take 2 people, some broccoli, and some lab equipment....measure 2 pieces of broccoli to ensure they are identical, then feed them to the 2 people. One likes it, one hates it. How do you explain this? In short, you cant determine that broccoli tastes good nor bad by measuring it. Period.

My point is that you cant draw subjective results from objective data. In other words, you cant say that product "X" sounds "Y" because of "Z". Because no matter how many people agree with that statement, there will always be someone who disagrees. And no matter how small the minority may be, they are right as well. End rant. :)

Sorry to those affronted by "grandstanding" with unecessary detailed discussion here on the Zu Druids. As several have pointed out and continue to reiterate "measurements have no meaning", as the Zu Druids are a fantastic speaker irregardless of what a lab measurement would indicate (better than all other high end speakers according to F1Audio) and Sean is a great guy. I don't dispute any of this. For the record, I already stated " Zu Druid's are undoubtedly good speakers."

I understand the need for subjectivists to jump in and aggressively defend preferences given that they select audio equipment without heed to measurements. On the flip side, please understand that objectivists enjoy and learn a lot through technical discussions with people such as Duke.