Curious what people think is the best "value" high end speaker (~5K to 15K)


I am on a long search for speakers and just curious what people think is the best value both new or used in speakers ranging from around $5000 to $15000? I have a set of Paradigm S8's (V1) and love them but looking for another set for another set in a different listening area (25 x 20?, maybe larger).  I love the full sound of JBL's and looking for something in that range (it also helps that JBL's seem to hold their value better than most, which will be a consideration). The only drawback to JBL is footprint.  I prefer a smaller footprint which is why after reading I hope to listen to several B&W 800 series but open to suggestions across the board.  used Watt Puppies? Revels?  I am curious about peoples experience with McIntosh XR100's. 
gene3x
mzkmxcv, Salk sounded congested to me, but YMMV. The cabinets finish was beautiful.
@ Stereo5. I see you mention your Triton Reference whenever you can. Does that make you a GE fanboy? Just thinking you probably wouldn't be complaining if there were a bunch of people on here touting your Tritons. 
"I've not heard Wilsons.

...B&W are underwhelming IMHO,...

...I always found B&W to sound boxy and congested."
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@mofojo...…………………………………………………………..

No, not really. I care less if someone wants GE speakers or not. I mentioned them because they fit his price range and I am familiar with them. Not a fan of the GE Triton 2 and on down, there is much better out there. However, I thought this would turn into another endless Tekton thread. Sorry to hurt your feelings but I don’t like Tekton, so if that is the way this thread is heading, I will bow out. I see you didn’t harp on "missioncoonery" for his complaint about the Tekton here, why is that?  Happy now?  Clear enough?

Hi gene3x, I wasn’t going to post in this thread as I don’t have a clear-cut nomination for “best absolute value” in this price range. But at least four times now you’ve brought up a particular subject that is imo worth exploring on its own:

"Okay, so now we are getting into something that is definitely important to me ..... sweet spot , sound stage , over all stereo sound envelope is important to me and willing to pay more for it. I have always wondered why so many audiophiles were satisfied with tiny speakers on a pedestal that could only give you a full representation within a small window. I want to fill as much of the room as possible."

"Can anyone speak to the size of the total sound envelope or active listening area of each of the speakers that you suggested?”

"Soundstage (sound envelope) is very important also.”

So apparently good soundstaging over a wide sweet spot matters a lot to you. It does to me too. I like to feel immersed in the music, including the soundscape on the recording, and I like to share that experience with others without it being limited to the one or two best seats.

You then ask an interesting question:

“Am I wrong to think that a larger speaker in most cases will have a larger soundstage filling the room with more listenable music?”

In my opinion relatively few speakers, large or small, are REALLY optimized for this. The principles involved are not secret, but they are overlooked. To answer your question, yes the larger speaker can do the better job, if it is designed to.

If you’re interested in WHAT it would take to “optimize” a design for a large soundstage that can be enjoyed across a large listening area, let me know. The reason I ask first is, it would be a rather long post and I don’t want to take up a lot of space in your thread uninvited. I’d finish off with a recommendation (of something that I don’t sell), but my recommendation would make no sense without the "backstory".

Duke

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