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What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"

Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.

Another one? Okay.

Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.

We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.

I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.

What is wrong with audiophiles????
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millercarbon OP
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Wow. On the scale of obtuseness you set a high bar. If you were any more dense stars would be careening down into the singularity between your ears.

Okay. Last chance then afraid I'm gonna have to ban you. You can post. Just won't be read. Not enough hours in the day to teach kindergarten math to anyone this slow. You will have to just get used to standing in the hall.

So like I said 6 were removed. One at a time. So, first one. On one side. Out of 6. Or one out of six if the periods are throwing you off. Which come to think of it.... are you having your period?

(Now watch him reply- not comprehending I really am no longer reading him. Well of course not. Told him flat out I was trolling, missed that one too. OTR. Fo sho.)
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If you were any more dense stars would be careening down into the singularity between your ears.
Mind if I use that in my travels? 



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A big platinum bar looks bright and shiny and solid but in reality it’s mostly just empty space.
atdavid
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You can try to twist the words anyway you like, but it does not change the words you wrote. One time you said 4 "Cable Elevators" per side, which in your parlance is branded Cable Elevators. The other time you said, "cable elevators", "One, On one side. Out of 6", which to well, near everyone, means 6 cable elevators (generic or branded) per side, or if you want to go with 6 generic cable elevators total, go for it.

Then you make up a convenient story about 6 branded Cable Elevators total, and two generic per side, even though your use of generic and branded above is well, rather clear. (p.s. Cable Elevators are sold in sets of 4 & 8 and yes I know they come in singles, but you said you bought a set). Now I could be mistaken, but I thought the ACE Cable Lifters were not released to what about 2003 maybe 2004? ... Cool, you had them in the late 90’s.

Again, I will add in the convenient "engineer", and the red-wine test, that again, pretty much no wine drinker would ever think was needed ... at a white wine drinking event where people are bringing Dom Perignon.

Just who are you trolling? Yourself?

No worries if you do not read my posts, other people still will.


Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There’s four holding each speaker cable up off the floor.


The improvement from a set of cable elevators is flat-out obvious.

Like I said the first time, one friend noticed he could hear the difference removing just one. One. On one side. Out of 6.


Okay so what’s the big deal? Well being a logical kinda guy I decided to test it out. Which you can do too. Tried wood, cups, carbon fiber, anything handy to support the cables up off the floor. Every single thing worked- more air, better image, more palpable presence. Finally after a while a dealer friend got Cable Elevators in said they were the best he’d heard so I bought a set. Easily the best thing yet.

This was many years ago, late 1990’s. More recently






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LOL, as if wine tasting or pharma can be applied to audio. Not so fast, slick!
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