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A challenge to the "measurement" camp

I’ve watched some of his video and I actually agree on some of what he said,
but he seems too confident on his insistence on measurement. For those
who expound on the merits of blind test and measurement, why not turn
the table upside down?

Why not do a blind test of measurement? That is I will supply all the measurement
you want, can you tell me which is a better product?

For example, if I have a set of cable, and a set of measurement for each
individual cable, can you tell me which is the best cable based on measurement
alone? I will supply all the measurement you want.
After all, that is what you’re after right? Objective result and not subjective
listening test.

Fast forward to 8:15 mark where he keeps ranting about listening test
without measurement.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katmUM-Xelw

By the way, is he getting paid by Belden?  Because he keeps talking about it
and how well it measures.  I've had some BlueJean cables and they can easily
bettered by some decent cables.  
andy2
andy2 OP
1,586 posts
 
^^^lols let's see your skills or its just bs.  Post your methods here or it's just bs.  I'll let you in a secret - I already know.  
roberttdid
534 posts
 
@andy2 ,

You made a challenge. It was called. You owe djones51 two frequency plots for two cables. Do you even know what one of those would look like? I have my doubts. You just skate and blame others. I will let you in on a secret. Everyone reading this thread with few exceptions sees right through you.

YOU made a challenge.
YOUR challenge was called.
YOU are making excuses.
YOU are transparent.
glupson
7,842 posts
 
andy2,

" But sometimes, that's what it takes to deal with certain username. Decency won't work on them."
That may be true, but lowering one's standards does not elevate the person. It makes her/him less credible. Until now, you have offered only insults and claims that djones51 is clueless. Nothing remotely tangible and possibly considered as an argument.

Again, I am taking no side in this aborted technical debate, but am merely noticing pitiful presentations.
andy2 OP
1,586 posts
 
Until now, you have offered only insults and claims that djones51 is clueless.
That is because after getting a good education from me, he still hasn't posted anything useful. He keeps asking for data but has no clue how to use them.   So by definition, that is clueless.

Again that's what it takes to deal with these kinds of situation.

And if you keep supporting him, then eventually you're no different than him.    






glupson
7,842 posts
 
andy2,

"And if you keep supporting him, then eventually you’re no different than him.
Well, let me try to explain it.

"That is because after getting a good education from me, he still hasn’t posted anything useful. "

"The finger :-)

Sorry but I couldn’t resist."

If that is the kind of education you provided, your level of teaching is suitable for a drunken fight in the bar. If those are things you cannot resist, you may want to revisit kindergarten manners class.

Your explanation why djones51 is clueless bears no logic in it. She/he may really be clueless, but the way you are proving it does not make you seem like someone who is capable of conveying clues about cluelessness.
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