We spend too much time talking about tweeters


I do it too. I'm guilty.

Just saying.  85% of the sound out of a speaker if not 95% is not in the tweeter, but the marketing people have us talking more about them than anything else.
erik_squires
Excuse the typo in the previous post.  What I meant to say is 3.5 kHz to 20 kHz is less than 2 and 1/2 octaves.
Nice job on the new tweeter thread.  grin.
I cannot imagine ever leaving the sealed ribbon tweeters in my speakers. The degree of incredible resolution and detail with no pain is astounding. They are so much better in every way than the Esotar II tweeters were to my ears, and I'd loved the Esotar until then.
I want it all in a speaker but if the tweeter isn't detailed and listenable then the speaker is out. I tried so hard but B&W diamonds-ouch to my ears over the long listen. I did love my old Martin Logan SL3s for transparency but their high frequencies fell away quicker, and could bite with the wrong amp.


Esotar II ‘s were very nice in my C5’s....WILSON inverted domes kicked butt.  Diamonds just allow so much definition through, even on Alto saxophone it just completes the tone and texture in a way I haven’t heard with other tweeters!
Personally I’m MUCH more interested in how well the midwoofer and tweeter work TOGETHER than in the solo performance of either.

A+++. I heard another speaker designer put it this way. The tweeter illuminates the midrange. They must work correctly together.   A pretty straightforward way to put it, but spot on IMO.
I can meet my goal with almost any good tweeters, or any relatively good speakers, but not with any room....😁

I can meet my goal with any relatively good amplifier or any good NOS dac, but not with a noisy electrical grid... 😁

The rest is interesting, but useless for my goal....


Sorry to spoil the thread.....


But i think any part of speakers count totally, assuming % to some part is like saying that man use only 10 % of his brain.... this is a populat saying that is not only false but non-sensical....Or like saying that some part of a car count for some % of the all working motor.... A working F1 motor depend of the millimeter adjusment of a single screw sometimes to win the race.....

A working design is not a sum of external parts associated with a %, a cooking recipe is tough.....What is the difference between a cooking recipe and a working design then ?




I prefer to reverse the saying, the most important audible part of a speaker design is the 5 % or 10% we can add, the more difficult part indeed ...


All that remind me of people speaking about frequencies, when they speak about their upgrade, more highs, more bass etc, warm sound, cold sound, etc; when what is important is timbre perception in audio...

By the way the contribution of tweeter to the musical instrument "natural" timbre perception is almost 100%...
Even if the tweeter contribute to some smaller part of the frequencies scale....



I am not a speaker designer tough.....😊 My opinion is only that an opinion....

In fact to be respectful to the OP i have absolutely no clue about the fact that we speak too much about tweeters or not....I dont even understand the opening paragraph, except the fact this is a speaker designer who said it....Anyway what this means?

Too much marketing around tweeters ?

Then it is like saying we speak too much about enclosure, because some marketing designer insist on it....


The more i write the more i realize that i dont understand.... I will mute myself.....