Low buzzing through speaks


Hello All,

 

Need some serious help here. So I just (upgraded?) from a Marantz AV8802A to a McIntosh MX122 preamp. I also just got brand new Revel Performa3 speaks all around (5 channel setup). I disconnect everything from the Marantz and then into the McIntosh, connect the speaks and I have a faint buzzing through all 5 speakers (that was not there previously). I have everything plugged into a Furman Elite 20pfi power conditioner which is plugged into a dedicated 20 amp circuit. My power amp is a Simaudio Titan HT200 5 channel. This is not going through the Furman but directly into the other outlet on the same 20 amp line. I even tried plugging the Sim amp into the Furman to see if that helped-no change faint buzz is still there. I have unplugged just about everything, and the buzz is still there. It is very faint and does not get louder when I turn up the volume. Again it is faint and you have to put your ear up to the speaks to hear but it is definitely there. I have tried so many things and nothing gets rid of it. It is not my cable box (I did have that issue previously with the Marantz but as soon as I unplugged the coax from the box it went away so I just bought a coax loop eliminator connected the cable to that and noise was all gone) as I unplugged that and started there.

 

Any help would be so sincerely appreciated????

kingbr

I’ll try connecting the wire for the ground between the Mac and Sim…

I’m not expecting this to change anything, as there should be no difference in ground planes between the two pieces of equipment, since they’re plugged into the same outlet, but you never know, and it’s still worth a try.

If we’re actually able to eliminate the buzz between the Sim and the Mac, it’ll be interesting to see what buzzes or hums pop up when reconnecting your pieces of equipment to the Mac, but let’s cross that bridge...

Definitely not the Revels! 😂

dpop..I admire and respect your effort here. I wish you lived nearby.
i feel the same way about wanting perfection, but everything is great when I’m listening and it doesn’t affect the music. I’m still thinking it’s a cabling interference that I can’t track.

. I’m hoping you trouble shoot this out for both of us. My local stereo shop and I talked a lot about this for quite awhile, they wondered if it was a situation of my pre-amp. It’s a foreigner and they wondered if the xlr slots were wired differently. I switched to the rcas only, it didn’t make a difference in the buzz.

@kingbr OK are you ready to solve your problem? I think the high gain of the XLR connection or amp/preamp combo gain is your issue. A 10 db attenuator will kill that.  You might have to use a XLR to RCA adapter to make it work in your application. I'm 99% sure that is what your issue is.

Be sure to read this: A Discussion About Idle Hiss – Upscale Audio

I am going to disconnect XLR’s and try the RCA’s first thing in the AM. Then I’ll try connecting the wire for the ground between the Mac and Sim…

If you have the RCA option, that will be 3db down and might solve your issue, if not see above. 

@kingbr

Darn it, I just noticed this in one of the reviews of the Hosa ground lifter. The thought of this occurring just hit my brain, and only then did I dig a little deeper and realize someone else had the same concern as I. From a review of the Hosa:

I am VERY disappointed with this product. I bought two of these to use for my studio monitors when trying to debug ground loops, and discovered way too many problems for such a simple product:

== Wired incorrectly ==
First and foremost, this "ground lift" adapter doesn’t even lift the ground... The metal housing is electrically connected to the housing of each each end via the screws on either side. This would be less of a problem if it weren’t for the fact that the connector housing ground is connected to the ground *pin* on both sides. What does that mean? This is just a M to F XLR coupler. Which XLR cables never need.


I fixed this by opening them up, and de-soldering the wire that connects the ground pin to the connector housing. This was not a single mistake; BOTH units had this issue. Unless this is fixed, these are nothing more than a placebo.

I’m really sorry about this. This is frustrating, because I can make exactly what I need in a matter of minutes. I think the Pro Co model is more correct, as it looks like they’re disconnecting one end of the shell from the other (with shrink wrap), which breaks the metal shell ground connection (and pin 1 connection). Sorry, I know this is getting a bit technical now. The problem with the Hosa model, as mentioned above, is a ground connection is still taking place, which rides on the metal outer shell, even though the connection between pins 1 and 1 (on each end of the connector) are disconnected. This was something I was hoping the Hosa model didn’t do. Someone at Hosa designed their product poorly and incorrectly. Yeah, it happens.

Pro Co GLX In-Line XLR Ground Lifter Adapter

Checking stock, it looks like almost everyone on the internet is out of stock on this model (maybe because this one is designed correctly, and actually fixes problems). I’d call Parts Express to see if they can confirm that they actually physically have these on their shelf (the website says they have two in stock). @kingbr private message me with your address, and I’ll make one that I know works, does exactly what I want it too, and I’ll send it to you.