@dmac67 Also I think it’s worth noting that when producing classic or any pop/rock recording, lots of bass is not always a priority. Producers and engineers and the artists they produce for are looking to emphasize different aspects of their music all the time. There is no audiophile in the room saying that they must maintain the bass levels no matter what. Recordings are what they are ie what the makers want them to be. It’s not a democratic process where the audiophile party rules.
What's up with lousy bass on classic rock recordings?
Few examples: ACDC Back In Black, Van Halen 1, Boston (1), WHO's Next, Def Leopard Pyromania.
The low end is almost non-existent. Digital and vinyl.
It's not my system, I listen to a lot of jazz, other classics like Janis Ian Breaking Silence - bass is rich, full, has slam when appropriate.
Compression? Or were the low frequencies never there? Pretty disappointing.
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The OP may want to get acquainted with discogs to learn what to look for in a period press. It's all in the matrix. Arguably, a first press IS the definitive version of any album. Van Halen's debut isn't a rare, obscure album to find. The rub is finding one that's unmolested. Van Halen – Van Halen (1978, Winchester Press, Vinyl) - Discogs Boston – Boston (1976, Vinyl) - Discogs The Who – Who's Next (1971, Vinyl) - Discogs Find one for cheap in the bins,or pay for someone going thru a dozen used copies to find "the one" @better-records.com
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@mapman I don’t have a white noise generator and the SPL app only measures down to 31Hz, so thanks for the offer! Baba O’Reilly (I’ve tried HR Quobuz and I have it on vinyl) and VH 1 Running with the Devil and Eruption (Quobuz - no vinyl) But I really do think it’s the recordings AND the SQ/dynamics that I now prefer. EDIT: and as someone pointed out some of this is meant to be played really loud, and I try to keep peaks below 90dB Back in the day my car had a better stereo than my home (JBL 6x9s - no one had subs back then with an Alpine head and amp in the trunk) and what I have today far surpasses anything prior - and it’s all relatively new gear. |
@tablejockey thanks for the advice and the links! |
@dmac67 if you search I was able to find internet radio stations that play white noise last time I looked. 31hz isn’t perfect but still very useful. Many hifis sans sub start to roll off well before that especially in larger rooms. The key is to keep the room response at your listening spot as extended and flat as possible. That enables every inkling of bass to be heard at proper levels I’ll give Baba a play and report back. |
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