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Do I really want the musicians in my room?

I've spent the last month - as time allows, at least - auditioning some of the popular gold/gold hybrid cables on the market. I noticed something very striking between a couple of the manufacturers: with one set in my system, my system "puts the musicians in my room". With another, the musicians are not in my room, but in the room the recording was made in; that is, I can hear the reverberataions in the studio or the venue. When I listen to the former, I think about how much information is on the source that I'm not hearing; with the latter, I wonder why I've spent ridiculous sums of money to get such resolution. Interestingly, though, my experience has been the "less resolving" "musicians are here" cables tend to have a more lush, seductive sound, while the "higher resolving" cables have a faster, more detailed sound. Which I prefer depends on my mood and the type of music I'm listening to.

Unfortunatly, it seems to me that these conditions are mutually exclusive. You can't have a system with a high degree of resolution and still have that "musicians are in your room" feeling, unless the recording itself allows for that. I don't seem to have many recordings that allow for both, though. Even then, the lushness is missing in the "higher resolving" cables.

Has anyone else struggled with this? If you found a way around this frustration, how did you do it?
aggielaw
hiernote
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Once again jmcgrogan enters a thread with his sarcasm makes his typical negative comments about everything and seems to be especially out to target Gabriel Gold yet calls Steve a nice guy yet probably does not even know him.
Assumes I have limited listening experiences with other cables and have not owned or heard Stealth,Jade or any other excellent cables.

Attacks both myself and another member with his favorite
expression in his vocabulary "grow up"
seems to love taking other members quotes and posting them.

Warns another member about the hornets nest yet he puts his hand in the behive.

In your own words "run"

uncheers!
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glory
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kiwi,

Thanks for the info on the GG cable that didn't work out for you. Not all GG cables are "oppressive" as I have three Rapture's that are anything but oppressive. I had the Rev. and thought it was a very good cable with my Audio note 300B amp. It beat out a Kondo KSL LP and a Audio Niote Sogon.

I really could care less about a GG not working in one's system. I really don't nest with the GG hornets or live in their hive. I do nest in the Audio Niote hive and ........

With my gear the Rev. and Rapture cables are out standing cables and are not oppressive. In your system Kiwi they sucked, so be it.

John,

I don't drink coffee =8^)
No meat, makes one's ears heavy + cancer attractor
No alcohol wherin excess
Only raw organic foods
Run 50 miles a week
Peacful marriage
All in all makes my ears to hear better.
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glory
1,614 posts
 
Dear Hiernote,

I do not find John's treads to be filled with sarcasm. I think he brings alot to the table and I know the GG didn't work out for him. No big deal to me.

Keep on firing John.

Good day,
Gary
dcstep
1,518 posts
 
The OP has a "high class problem".

Personally I err toward total resolution and let my mood determine how I interpret the recordings. Some days I sit there and think, "I wish they'd used a used a different mic on Blanchard's trumpet" or "I wish the bass wasn't in such a small isolation room" or "I wish she'd move away from the mic just a little", while other days I just think, "Wow, what a performance!" or "Listen to the air around those bass strings" or "Her voice is so expressive, and beautiful, even at a whisper".

When your system resolves well, you have an option of how to interpret it. When the system leaves things out or smooths over details, then you can only interpret things one way.

Still, it's a personal choice and only the OP can answer for himself.

Dave
aggielaw OP
267 posts
 
Dave,

Very interesting. I hadn't thought of it (high resolution) that way. I think about the same kinds of things you mention, but I suppose I never thought of it as interpretation. That's something I'll chew on for a while.

I will never have enough time or money to hear all the components and cables I'd like to hear. Input from others is very important to me in determining what I'd like to audition next. Not to take sides, but John (JMcGrogan2) has been very kind in answering several posts and off-line emails on various issues for me. His input is always appreciated, as are the thoughts of all who care enough to contribute their experiences, perceptions, and opinions on this fascinating hobby.
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