12AX7 vs. 5751


I'm getting my first tube pre (Counterpoint 7.1) this week or early next week, and of course I have start fiddling with it ;-) I've been reading Joe's Tube Lore (http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/faq/joes-tubes.html) and the 5751 caught my eye, however I see statements like "lower gain that the 12AX7" and lower "mu" (what is mu?). Anyways could I use the 5751 tubes in my Counterpoint without causing any damage? altavistaaudio.com mentions nothing about the 5751.

thanks
greenp3
There are no guarentees it will sound better with a 5751 set ...Each peice of equipment is a little different,so the only way to know is to try..I tried and like the RCA 5751 black plate ( circa 1962 ). Not much gain loss and gorgeous mids with good bass..Didn't like the Mullard ( to dark for my set up ) .I did however think the Tungsram 12ax7 ( Hungary ) is one of the best 12ax7 nos tubes I have ever tried...( available at Tubemonger.com )To me if I were going to try rolling I would suggest try either one of those tubes mentioned. Both great but slightly different..And as mentioned by Davt ,the Mullards work great for some also..Its a crapshoot!
I have used both A LOT and never noticed the gain difference in 5751s. But they sure sound different. The right tubes will depend on your tastes and equipment.

Arthur
I have an additional question.

Can a 12ax7 be used in place of a 5751?

the preamp is speced for a 5751 in the line stage.
gentlemen:

in many cases you may substitute a 12ay7 for a 12ax7, with a gain difference. i have done this with a cj premier 3, audio note cd2, cary slp 94, mcintosh c220 and nobis proteus preamp--phono stage .
For Fisher 500C receiver the 5751s do not have the dynamics of 12AX7s.