A not sarcastic question for the power conditioner/upgraded power cord folks


And I realize that there are those that don’t believe in either

Assuming you use a power conditioner and after market power cords, do you feel that the power cord from the power conditioner to the wall might be a limiting or even a negating factor to the performance of the after market power cords that run from the power conditioner to the gear?

The reason I ask is that I was about to embark upon some more experimentation with different power cords and where I plugged them into when I discovered that the aftermarket cords I had purchased before and some recent arrivals are actually a meter shorter than the ones that came with the gear. This doesn’t matter for the amp due to its location, but when I did my last power cord upgrade I ran my CDP and pre into a conditioner so the length for those didn’t matter either, but as I was doing the musical chairs with power cords thing today, I also was intending to run the CDP and pre straight into the wall on separate dedicated circuits, but I found out that I am a tad short on those two.

Which doesn’t preclude me from moving my dedicated circuit outlets up a couple of feet, and I suppose I probably will, but I was curious as to the opinions about the limitations of a power conditioners power cord.

immatthewj

@immatthewj let me simplify this…

Scenario 1 - everything is plugged into the conditioner. In this case the besr power cord should be on the conditioner. Second best power cord should be on the amplifier. Go up the chain from there.
Scenario 2 - all sources are plugged into power conditioner, amp in the wall. In this case you should be using your best cord on the amplifier and second best on the conditioner.
I both cases it would be preferred to use highest possible quality cords on conditioner and amp. What constitutes a best power cord…the one that makes your amplifier sound its best and the one that makes your source components sound their best. Eventually work up to all power cords of equal quality.
What power conditioner are we talking about here?

I’ll add - if you have dedicated circuits install good quality outlets and go direct sans conditioner. Especially if it’s a 30 year old glorified power strip. That’s how I run my system - direct no power conditioner.

scenario 1 - not always, not in my case. In my case the best power cord goes to integrated tube amp.

scenario 2 - no sure, possibly.

@audphile1 , I guess that at this very moment I have it hooked up with pre and CDP to power conditioner, and amp so it will plug straight to the wall.

I get almost daily emails from PCX and ACX and they sent me one with the XLO Ultra Plus marked way way down from list, so I was like, "Why not," and I ordered it. Then a day later I get an email from them advertising the audience forte f3 power chord for BOGO. I remember what you said about that PC, so for half list I order them and now I have upgraded PCs t for my CDP, pre, and my amp.

But, this is where it is problematic for the time being:

with a 2 meter run my amp is all that I can get straight into the wall. So right now, I am forced to use my glorified strip to plug the pre and cdp into. Problem 2 is that I cannot upgrade the pc to the glorified strip, because although it appears to be a very nice braided pc, it is hardwired in.

As for the conditioner/glorified strip: it is a "Promethethian Audio Products Power Flo" that a dealer in Philthadelphia convinced me back in nineteen ninety and something would transform my system. I cannot honestly say I that thought that heard difference one way or the other and over the years I have mostly not used it, and since I was using stock 3m PCs, length was never an issue. Until a couple of years ago--I started following one of those dedicated circuit threads that were thriving back then, and someone had posted that their opinion was ONLY ONE CIRCUIT for every thing. The rationale was something about "ground loops at the panel" with gear hooked up to more than one circuit. Then MillerCarbon made a rare appearance and concurred. So at that point I thought I’d at least try condensing my three dedicated circuits to one.

So I needed the glorified strip to do that with. And at the time I thought I did hear a slight bit of improvement with all 3 pieces of gear on one circuit. But who knows. I will admit that I am probably subject to confirmation bias, and since I am aware of that, and the mind being a funny thing, who really knows.

Okay--so that was all with the stock 3m cords. Then, going back quite a few months, we all got into that discussion about the Preffair PCs from Amazon. The 2m PCs I bought were not an issue because at the time I was still using the glorified conditioner strip. As I was redoing PCs this afternoon, that’s when I discovered the length issue w/ the 2m PCs.

No biggy, I suppose I’ll move the outlets to where I can make all three reach direct, no conditioner aka strip.

Oh, and getting to how I presently hooked them up: I hooked the XLO to the CDP and the two audiences up to the pre and the amp. For now. How does it sound? I do not know as we were having some stuhranggggeee weather here today--small hail followed by thunder. So I have left everything unplugged for the time being.