A Question About Time Alignment


I was reading a review of the Wilson Alex V on Stereophile recently. (Published just in time. I’m thinking about picking up a pair. Maybe a couple for the bedroom, too.) And it raised a long-standing question of mine, one that I hope the wiser minds on this site can answer. 
 

Wilson’s big selling point is aligning the different frequencies so they all reach your ear simultaneously. As I understand it, that’s why they have minute adjustments among the various drivers. The woofers put out bass notes that move slowly thanks to their long sound waves while the tweeters are playing faster moving, high frequency notes with short waves. Wilson lets you make adjustments so that they all arrive at the ear at once. 
 

It seems to me, however, that live music isn’t time aligned. Suppose I’m playing the piano and you’re sitting across the room. When I stretch out my left hand to hit the low notes, those notes travel along the same long, slow wavelengths as the notes from Wilson’s woofers. Similarly, the treble notes I play with my right hand move quickly through the short wavelengths. The notes from the piano are naturally out of alignment. If Wilson’s goal is to achieve a lifelike sound, aligning the frequencies doesn’t seem like the way to do it. 
 

Wilson has been selling lots of zillion dollar speakers for lots of years and people continue to gobble ‘em up. Something must be wrong with my line of reasoning. Would someone please point out where I’ve gone wrong? Nicely?

paul6001

Monopulse Loudspeakers here in the UK have made this time alignment issue their main selling point for decades.

The designer Allan Hendry has been stating that impulse precision is hard wired into our evolution for survival itself and thus it’s importance cannot be overstated.

Everytime I’ve listened to Monopulse speakers they did seem to be easy on the ear, very listenable for long durations. That led me to also wonder whether they are onto something.

If so, does that mean most others aren’t?

http://www.monopulse.co.uk/

 

 

Monopulse Loudspeakers here in the UK have made this time alignment issue their main selling point for decades.

The designer Allan Hendry has been stating that impulse precision is hard wired into our evolution for survival itself and thus it’s importance cannot be overstated.

Everytime I’ve listened to Monopulse speakers they did seem to be easy on the ear, very listenable for long durations. That led me to also wonder whether they are onto something.

If so, does that mean most others aren’t?

http://www.monopulse.co.uk/

Technically having a good impulse response means having higher fidelity.

There many speakers that do it, but it is easier to have speakers that may not be so good.

Time alignment: a simpler illustration. The acoustic centers of a cone midrange and a dome tweeter when both are mounted in the same plane (e.g., on a flat front of a speaker) will not be in the same plane. The tweeter would typically be ahead of the cone speaker. Thus even if the two speakers are in electrical phase the harmonics from the tweeter will arrive slightly ahead of the lower frequencies of a cone speaker whose acoustic center is near the apex of the cone which could be a couple inches behind the plane if both components are mounted on the same plane. 

@soundscapemd

The acoustic centers of a cone midrange and a dome tweeter when both are mounted in the same plane (e.g., on a flat front of a speaker) will not be in the same plane. The tweeter would typically be ahead of the cone speaker.

 

Monopulse employ this mechanical way of aligning the drive units.

Others claim to be able to do it electrically via the crossover.

Some prefer to horn load their tweeters so that the tweeter is behind the physical plane of the woofer(s).

 

Time alignment might not be the be all end all of speaker design but I think it does help to reduce the so called ’listener fatigue’.

I remember reading that the more unnatural the sound is, the more tiring it is to listen to. The reason usually given is that your brain will have to engage in considerably more processing with those recordings that don’t sound authentic or genuine.

I would bet that this is particularly true when listening to a recording of the human voice.

 

Hold on for one moment. Consider the piano. It's roughly 5 feet wide. So sound from a bass string is going to arrive at the mic way after sound from the treble side. Worse, that bass string is several feet long, so sound will arrive at different times from different parts of the string. Worse yet there are the reflections off the lid arriving all out of phase and time  alignment. So explain how moving a tweeter a fraction of an inch is going to make any audible difference.