A/V Processor and Amp for B&W speakers?


Hi All,

I’m looking for advice on an A/V processor and Amp.

My current setup is:

B&W CM10’s front left and right
B&W Center 2 front
B&W 685’s rear left and right
B&W PV1 sub
Pioneer SC-27 receiver
Panasonic DP-UB820 Blu-ray Player
Sony 65” X900H TV

I mainly use this setup for TV / movies. I was originally looking at getting the Rotel RSP-1576 processor and Rotel 1585 amp, mainly because Rotel are known to be a good match with B&W speakers, however I simply no longer have the budget for these components so looking for more affordable options?

Any advice welcomed!

Kevin
kdochert
Monoprice Monolith amps.  They have a 5 x 200 for $5100 or 7 x 200 for $1729.

Outlaw 976 processor ($1000).   The Outlaw is possibly just a tiny bit light on bass power, but it's really a pretty decent sounding processor.  I've tested it in my own system before modding it for a friend.

There's an Anthem AVM-60 "New" on ebay for $2499.  It's a discount from retail.  It's going to be significantly better than the Outlaw, but 2-1/2 times as expensive, lol.

You can always just buy an amp and use the pre-outs on your Pioneer receiver for a short-term upgrade.

Any thoughts on used items?

     How about simplifying?  You could sell your Pioneer receiver and your Panasonic Bluray player and replace them used for a total of under $3,300 with these:
     Buy the Rotel 1585 amp used for $1,995 here:
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649578372-rotel-rmb-1585-in-black-beautiful-looks-beastly-power/
     Then buy the Oppo 203 used for $1,275 here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Oppo-UDP-203-Blu-ray-Player/114447205911?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DH...

     The Oppo has a built-in 7.1 audio surround processor, a built-in video processor. built-in wi-fi, built-in audio and video streamer and plays DVDs, CDs, DVD-Audio and SACDs.  The Oppo 203 is a jack of all trades, like a Swiss army knife.  
     Just connect the Oppo's audio outputs directly to the Rotel amp,  the Oppo's HDMI video output to your Sony hdtv and control everything with the Oppo's remote.

Tim
    
     

Hi Auxinput,

Thanks for these suggestions, these hit my price point perfectly and seem generally well regarded. As per my setup above I only need 5 channels, but would it be worth buying the 7 channel and bi-amping the front speakers and is the Outlaw 976 even capable of bi-amping setups?

I’m open to used items also, particularly on the amp side, in fact I’ve looked a few times for the rotel gear I mentioned but they seem hard to find second hand, but ultimately I’d prefer to buy new with such large expenses.

Thanks,

Kevin
Hi Tim,

The rotel amp was already sold by the time I clicked in the clink, hot item I guess, but thanks for sharing the link

Unfortunately I have too many other items to connect (tivo dvr, mac mini, apple tv) for the oppo option. The death of Oppo was surprising a few years back given how well regarded their gear is.

Thanks,

kevin
Yes it's true that the Oppo is basically a self-contained HT processor.  However, it's great that you caught that "single HDMI input" limitation.  I was going to mention that.

The Outlaw does not have bi-amping.  I wouldn't normally bi-amp unless you had an out-board analog crossover.  That's really the only true benefit to bi-amping (but you would need to modify internal speaker crossovers).  Also, bi-amping in processors can frequently degrade sound quality because of the way they automatically try to do bi-amping signal differences.

You could always do a Y-Cable, but then you are affecting the amplifier input impedance.  The Monolith has more than enough power to drive your B&W speakers without bi-amping.

As far as the 5-channel vs. 7-channel.  The 7-channel has bigger transformers, so it's possible that it would give you slightly more power in the bass/midbass area, especially if you don't connect the last 2 channels.  It's up to you.  It's basically a $230 price option, so it depends on your budget.

I don't know if you noticed, but I typoed the price for the 5-channel.  It should be $1500.  NOT $5100, lol.

One thing about the Outlaw is that the menu/setup is somewhat cumbersome.  It takes about 3-5 seconds to bring up the menu and it blanks out the audio/video.  It pretty much treats the menu system as a completely separate source.  It doesn't have OSD overlay like every other processor.  But you can configure it and the performance is quite good.