ARC SP16 vs SP8


hay ive got an sp16 preamp to go with my vs110 amp. I was wondering if an sp8 would be an upgrade in both linstage and phono stage? have you heard both? How would you describe the 8. I find the 16 to be neutral but im not crazy about it's stereo imaging, almost to mono feeling for me. could maby upgrading my sumiko bluepoint 2 on my pro ject 2 xperience do the trick?
barruch86
Honestly from what i heard about the 10, the cost to retube it is alot. What i do like about the 16 is how neutral it is, im not sure if i would like a warmer coloration. I think the 16 is more closer to the sound of your 15 than the 10, but mabey not as detailed or as front row.
The SP-8 was just below the SP-10 in the product line. It is an expensive proposition to keep the SP-10's phono stage in low noise tubes. The SP-8 had a tube regulator and was more tube sounding than the SP-16. The SP-16 is more accurate and is a really good preamp. Crosstalk should not even be an issue unless there is a problem with it. You could have a noisy regulator in it. When was the last time it was retubed?
Barruch, I don't mean to sound critical here but I believe too many people waste money changing gear when a better system set up might give them what they are looking for. If you were 6' away with speakers spaced 4' apart I'm not surprised if it sounded like mono.

Now no one can tell you exactly how to set up your speakers because there are too many variations with room interaction. But some basic guidelines can help. I agree with Newbee that an equilateral triangle between speakers and listening seat is a good place to start. If your room allows you to be a little more than 6' from the speakers I'd try that. Then, whatever that distance, I'd experiment starting with the same separation between speakers as listening distance, then incrementally reduce the separation between the speakers up to an 80% of the listening distance. Hopefully somewhere within that range will optimize your room.

If you haven't seen a copy, Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound" will offer far more information on all this.
Not sure how much plugging and unplugging of left and right channel cables you have done lately, but you may want to be sure all of your right to right and left to left connections are correct.
Thank you everyone for your help. I think im gonna keep the preamp and work on speaker positioning. Moving them around as wide as i can get has helped. I also tried tilting the speakers slightly downward because the stands made for the mc1 are 24 inches high, making the speakers 70 inches tall. My seat is 16 inches high. I think that was part of the problem. Hifi geek, i do hear noise in the power supply, i did recently retube it with arc's west germany tubes from arc.