Are audiophiles still out of their minds?


I've been in this hobby for 30 years and owned many gears throughout the years, but never that many cables.  I know cables can make a difference in sound quality of your system, but never dramatic like changing speakers, amplifiers, or even more importantly room treatment. Yes, I've evaluated many vaunted cables at dealers and at home over the years, but never heard dramatic effect that I would plunk $5000 for a cable. The most I've ever spent was $2700 for pair of speaker cables, and I kinda regret it to this day.  So when I see cable manufacturers charging 5 figures for their latest and "greatest" speaker cables, PC, and ICs, I have to ask myself who buys this stuff. Why would you buy a $10k+ cable, when there are so many great speakers, amplifiers, DACs for that kind of money, or room treatment that would have greater effect on your systems sound?  May be I'm getting ornery with age, like the water boy says in Adam Sandler's movie.
dracule1
I love this one by Geoff,

Two, your contention that blind tests reveal that all expensive cables are no better than cheap cables is either your own puffery and untrue or if you have been involved in a blind test, which BTW I actually doubt, that produced negative results I suggest it is simply an outlier and can be thrown out.

Basically if if your test results aren't what I want them to be they are "an outlier" and can be thrown out. Too bad that doesn't  work in court🙄
And by the way drac I don't think you should exclude coat hangers from your statement. They probably sound better than some 2k cables. 

there are many expensive cables I do not like and many inexpensive ones I like very much, but I have never heard a $2k cable that didn't sound better than a coat hangar, regardless of metal used in the hangar...
analogluvr
232 posts
06-22-2016 7:47am
"I love this one by Geoff,

Two, your contention that blind tests reveal that all expensive cables are no better than cheap cables is either your own puffery and untrue or if you have been involved in a blind test, which BTW I actually doubt, that produced negative results I suggest it is simply an outlier and can be thrown out.

Basically if if your test results aren't what I want them to be they are "an outlier" and can be thrown out. Too bad that doesn't work in court🙄
And by the way drac I don't think you should exclude coat hangers from your statement. They probably sound better than some 2k cables."

I don't appreciate having words put in my mouth.  That's not what I'm saying, not by a long shot. What I'm saying is when most blind tests are positive, you know, like the ones the OP posted, you can throw away the ones with negative results because they don't mean anything. They're just data points way off the curve. Follow?

I think cables do make a difference from personal testing, but the guys over at AVS forum are ruthless to defend that a 5 dollar copper cable sounds the same as a 1000 dollars speaker cable.

From personal testing this is not true, the difference is not so dramatic but there are clear differences. I am start to wander now each forum has a set level of thinking. Audiogon forum loves the high end cables reasonably priced. AVS forum either cant afford it so they dismiss it or dont have clean enough ears to make a sound judgement. Audio shark forum goes all out and buys what ever they feel they want. Audio circle forum has alot of decent price cables users. Gearslut forum does not believe in cable differences. 

I think one of the cheaper price Purist audio design are well built and good sounding cables. Never tried there anniversary but the commanding price is the same as a secondhand decent sports car.

Once you go past the 1000-1500 dollar mark its Law of Diminishing Return playing in at a 100 fold. Anything above this budget to me starts to get bit too silly. 

Same applies to power cords and interconnects. Anything above 1000 dollars is ridiculous.

I think Neotech is by far the best value in the cable business.