Are cables really worth their high price because of their geometry?


They’re some pricey cables that have claim to fame because of the high tech geometry used in their cables.
Many of these cables have patents on specific geometry patterns used in their cables and use this as a reason their cables sound so good. For that reason, many say the reason their cables cost so much is they’re so complex . The man hours to make a pr results in their high price. That maybe true for some cables, but I’ve seen very pricey cables using the same geometry reason that look like a thin piece of wire rapped in outer jacket no thicker than a pencil. So,Is all this geometry just another way to justify their cost or is it true science that we are paying in the end?
hiendmmoe
Building cables is just like everything else. I worry that by everything else people think I mean audio. But no. I mean everything else. Its all the same.

Take cars. Pretty much all cars have four wheels. Nice and stable. They tend to all look the same. Many decades ago, not so much. All these wonderful shapes and sizes. When they started going faster though air resistance became a bigger factor and so now they are all starting to converge on aero shapes much like airplanes.

That’s the majority of cars, the automotive equivalent of the radio or boom box, up to mid-fi. Hi-Fi is like F1. Look how many different designs there are in F1. There’s been ground effects, there’s been four front wheels! Today when you look close there’s no two alike even on the same grid, and Mercedes is able to adjust front geometry by pulling and pushing on the steering wheel.

What is going on here is exactly the same thing as is going on with cables. Its always the same. At one level of performance the technology is pretty well ironed out. At the sharp end of the stick though are all these different people with all kinds of different ideas on how to advance and expand the performance envelope.

Nobody knows what they’re doing. Oh we all like to think they do. We look at something like the SR71 and say see, they know, and for sure have even better stuff now. Forgetting all the failed designs before and since. Because pushing the performance envelope is driving into the unknown. How could anyone possibly know what they’re doing? That people can be so daft as to believe these stories boggles the mind.

Especially since its not only the absolute finest cost no object performance where this applies. It applies equally well to the budget product. With SOTA the challenge is to make something better than anything ever before. With budget the challenge is to get that SOTA sound for cheap. Either way it involves trying new approaches. Either way its experimental. Either way the proof is in the pudding.

So what do we do? Talk about geometry? How dumb can you get?!? Might as well be a bunch of us sitting around arguing about Red Bull winglets vs Ferrari whatever. Its all piffle. The proof is in the pudding. Cars must be raced. Cables must be listened to.

All else is noise.
That’s a double-entendre, by the way. "The rest" can mean everything else. But rest can also mean relaxation. Pause. Surcease. To sleep. Perchance to dream?

b4icu
281 posts07-19-2020 10:35pmNO !!!

The speaker cable industry, unfortunately, has no knowledge about the product they make. As so, they invented as many "Urban Legends" to Differentiate their product over others, or penetrate the market if new.

The ONLY thing that matters is the cables resistance. Resistance is a result of length and thickness. It should be way lower than the Amp’s DF.
That’s the only thing that matters.
All other:
Geometry (a new trend)
Purity (OFC)
Directional
Cryo treatment
Skin Effect
Silver over Copper
Structure
Shielding
and Snakes Oil :-)

Are all in the same ridiculous BS, spread by the industry.

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Ok then, what’s the best maestro? You said, what you said, NOW what should I use?

Direction? Purity (OFC)? Silver over Copper? Shielding?
Structure? (there’s a new one).

Ridiculous BS. All other, than RESISTANCE is BS...

Did I read you view correctly?

WOW, are you in for learning curve, No, I don’t want to listen to your system...Thank you very much..

I have a good idea, where it’s gonna land in my SQ realm. LOL

Kinda like comparing Chef Boyardee spaghetti in a can with MAMA’S home cooking... Laughable at best...

Regards