Atma-Sphere Class D… Amazing

A couple of observations.

@kuribo has politely requested certain measurements be provided. He has the right to ask for those and @atmasphere also has the right to either provide those...or not. I’m not sure @kuribo would be a candidate to purchase in either case as @csmgolf has pointed out. Maybe Ralph would rather someone take the basic data he provides to make a broad decision to either go listen to them or not. Maybe Ralph could care less if the ASR crowd embraces what he has developed to even go hear them.

Here’s something that I’m sure Ralph would never do...but I suspect many others might. Why would I introduce a well made, well engineered excellent sounding amplifier at the $4-5k pricepoint rather than to exhaustively look for efficiencies and economies of scale in order to get the price down to $1k? Maybe I don’t want to build four times as many amplifiers? Maybe the money value of time to build an amplifier at the fit/finish I want to produce is X dollars and therefore I don’t want to compete in that space? My main reason to produce the more expensive product is that I simply don’t want to deal with the potential customer cross shopping Topping/Gustard/Hypex/Purifi while giving a reach-around to Amir and the other "if it costs more its a snakeoil ripoff" crowd. There are numerous examples that some potential customers simply aren’t worth the time it takes to turn them in to happy customers in order to head off the zero star Yelp review in their quiver.

I assume @kuribo is a sincere potential customer who has several measurement hurdles he wishes @atmasphere to clear before giving the amplifiers a listen. Give Ralph a little credit for reading between the lines that maybe, just maybe, the measurement police were unsuccessful in setting their trap.

@csmgolf

Um, the only one in this conversation that has their mind made up is you. What difference would it make if he published the measurements? How can I reasonably answer that unless he goes ahead and publishes them? As I said, if they are an improvement on the Hypex and Purifi designs, then arguably they have an added value that may justify the 3-4x great price. Why arguably? Because "value" is subjective and as I have also said repeatedly, the ultimate arbiter is how they would sound to me in my system in my room.

I have neither seen the measurements nor heard the amp, which would be the basis of any judgments. I have remarked that the amp, UNLESS it competes on an objective performance basis with its competitors (which we DO NOT KNOW), represents a poor value TO ME at its price point. This is called "a qualified opinion" and it is based on speculation, due to the lack of data.


 

@noske I want to assure that at AGD we are confident to provide the most advance technology with all our designs.

Personally, and to dissipate your doubts, I have been working on Class D since 2001 and on GaN technology since 2005.

With all due respect, Silicon Mosfet cannot compete in performance nor on future FOM (Figure of Merit) improvement with GaN based semiconductors, it is not a matter of opinion, it is physics. 

@aw-agd and for your first post you chose to post on a thread originated by an Atmasphere owner specifically about Atmasphere amplifiers? Were you somehow alerted to this thread by a close associate who has been following this thread?

@ghasley 

I assume @kuribo is a sincere potential customer

I have been using class d amps for more than 25 years. I have followed the tech with great interest over that period. I am currently putting together an active 3 way system and am indeed looking for 6 channels of amplification. With my long history using class d amps, yes, I am a sincere potential customer. I was originally drawn to class d because of its efficiency, form factor, and price/performance. While I can afford to buy whatever I like I still believe in price/performance and with class d amps with stellar performance available these days for incredibly reasonable prices, I don't think it unreasonable to expect to see performance measurements, especially for products that seem grossly out of line price-wise with other market entrants. Of course every manufacturer is free to provide as much or as little detail as possible, that's there choice. The consumer also gets to make a choice.