B&W 804s + Atma-Sphere M60 MkIII.2


I am setting a second audio room where I got B&W 804s. I just heard Atma-Sphere M60 with a Mervil VSM, the soundwas excellent. The details and sound stage is fantastic. I don't have a chance to try it with my B&W 804s that's why I would like to ask you whether the matching system between 804s and MA60 would work out? I mean in term of power and ease of driving 804s?! I know 804s requires some serious power. I tried it with Denon POA-A1HDCI for home media room and was just ok! besides it sounds very good with Mcintosh MC402 which is no wonder!
I like the sound of Atma-Sphere M60 MkIII.2 and always wanted to have an OTL amp but the question relies on low impedance ability of these amp?! 804s nominal impedance is 8ohm but it goes down to 3.5ohm for lower mid range frequency. I also thought to associate a Velodyne sub for getting more bass.

I would appreciate your feedback.

cheers,
Michel.
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Michel,

Never heard the Atma-Sphere, nor know much about it. I can say, though, my 804S driven by my McIntosh MC275 sounds great. It's rated at 75W per channel, and some claim these versions deliver closer to 90W, but clearly not a lot of power. At the time I bought this amp, I also tried these speakers with an MC252 Mc SS amp, and preferred the tubes - to me the added Watts weren't key. Larger B&W indeed need a lot of power. I think the 804S are a great match with tubes. BTW, my pre is also tubed.

Atma-Sphere might chime in here. If they don't, go ahead and post the question to them.

Re sub, I run two Rythmik subs and I'm very pleased with the setup. Setup is tricky, but I learnt a lot in the process. If you go down that road let me know and I can share more on the way I approached it.

Let us know how it goes.
Call Ralph at Atmasphere. He has heard his amps on most speakers out there and will give you the straight poop. One of the real good guys in this field.
Swampwalker, thanks, I called Atmasphere and Ralph was not available. I talked to someone there and he said B&W804+MA-60 would be a good match but he was not so sure! I need to drop an e-mail to Ralph himself to find out about it.

Lewinskhil01, thanks for sharing your experience. I had 804D and 804S(!) driven by Mc402 which was excellent in term of details and sound-staging! However I felt B&w804D was a little bit bright, especially with AQ-SKY cables! I thought to incorporate some Tube Pre-amp to the loop. I added a MC2300 which resolved the problem, the brightness was gone. Finally I sold my 804D and for Tannoy Canterbury. The Canterbury has too much forwarding sound which becomes kinf o tiring after a while, I am not really proud of this last choice! I have to say B&W are excellent speakers for their comparative price range.
This 804s setup is for a second audio room (vacation house) and I am using my McIntosh Mx-135 as pre-amp. It is an excellent preamp-processor with a wonderful MM phono that I used it with a SUT for MC cartridges. I don't want to go crazy on spending too much money for this second set-up, my wife wouldn't allow that!?! I Heard Mc275 at dealer driving Martin-logan and Sonus Faber speakers. I was very pleased with its sound, it has a lot authority and details. Besides when I heard ATMA MA-60, I was so overwhelmed, perhaps there is something magic about OTL amps. Of course it was not a same setup and it is not an objective comparison! I try to find out more about ATMA MA-60 and matching issues with B&W804s. Otherwise I will go with McIntosh MC275, which is also kind of my wife’s favorite stylish amp! In the mean time I use my Denon POA-A1HDCI.
Lewinskih01, Regarding Subwoofer, I was planning to get one of those Velodyne EQ-Max10”. I read too much about one sub vs. two subs! Obviously, two subs resolving is more obvious. Besides there is a lot of challenges of incorporating 2 subs, placement, added distortion etc... I don’t know how much improvements I can get with 2 subs instead of one sub!? 20%, 30% of improvement or more?! Have you done this experience with just one sub? It seems placing subwoofer in the middle would be a good compromise!?
Cheers,
Michel.