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Bi amp pros out there I could use some help! First time Bi Amping...

Just picked up a BAT vk 200 for the bass and using my Pass Aleph 5 for the mids and tweets. Ive never played around with bi amping so I apologize in advance for any lame questions My speakers are Dunlavy SC3's original 5.5 nominal load. The pass is 90 wpc at 4 Ohm and the BAT is 200 wpc at 4 ohm so Im guessing around 75 wpc off the Pass Amp and 150 plus with the Bat Amp. My pre amp is a Aleph P and Im running the Single ended through a XLR adaptor (cause the Bat is Balanced inputs only) and the pass Aleph 5 off the XLR outputs of the pre and inputs of the Pass amp. The PASS Pre Amp manual says there is a 6db differential between the RCA and XLR outputs  two and both can be driven at the same time. So the RCA is 9db and the XLR is 15 db. Gain is within 2db on each amp. So whats the best way to do this? Get a custom XLR "Y" connector and drive both off the XLR output of the pre? Or is there a way better way to get the magic? This is past my "WORLD" Map and experience so Id thought Id ask for the smart people for advice. 

Thank you in advance!

-ALLGOOD
haywood310
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hifidream
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Hi George,

Check out Nelson’s site:
http://www.firstwatt.com/b4.html

His First Watt work is being distributed by Pass Labs dealers. You can pick one up for $1,500. Reno Hi-Fi will sell them as a special order for example. 

I bet bdp24 has a good security system like all of us! No chance of snagging one from him :)

Have fun! 
Steve


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georgehifi
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Too much for for me, that equals out to $2200aud, my limit for any active xover is $500aud used

Cheers George
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bdp24
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I got my B4 used for $750, I think it was, and that was the last one I've seen come up for sale. I read Nelson discontinued it as a finished product, offering it only as a kit, but Steve (hifidream) may know better.
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hifidream
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Bdp24 you’re right it was the case that he had stopped making them and you could get a kit but he made some tweaks to the design and it looks like he has a new model that is in production on a special order basis. . . I like to keep up with his designs in First Watt. He’s so innovative!

How much fun would it be to sit and listen to all the different designs he has come up with one after another and hear how they differ. Speaking of bi-amping, most of his work in First Watt are for efficient speaker designs and being able to vertically bi-amp them would allow them to be used with a lot more speakers. One can dream. . . 
rodman99999
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@georgehifi - Something to consider: (http://www.allegrosound.com/Dahlquist_DQ-LP1_AllegroSound.html) (https://www.hifishark.com/model/dahlquist-dq-lp-1) Lots of ways to upgrade/tweak and still supported by it’s builders(well- some of the guys that worked there, anyway). (http://www.regnar.com/dahlquist-dq-lp1-parts---upgrades.html) Hard to find, ’cause they work great and are still sought after, by many. btw: If you’re interested, PM me and I can send a PDF copy of the manual(no, I don’t still have a DQ-LP1, but- do miss it, sometimes).
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