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Built-in phono or seperate for budget system

this question must have been asked before, but they are scattered in too many threads so I am starting a new one.

want to build a 2nd system that includes vinyl. haven't decided on speakers yet, but leaning toward Usher BE-718. I can go integrated or separate, I do have a Forte 4A in closet I can use to drive the Usher.

if I go with separate, the pre amp I am considering is Audible Illusions 3A which has built-in MM and it's tube. draw back is it has no remote. I can also shop for a tube pre like SF Line 1 and add a outboard phono to it for slightly more money, there are other pre out there that offers tube and remote for less.

is the built-in phono in AI 3A as good or better than some inexpensive outboard phono box to justify the inconvenience? this 2nd system will play background music, so convenience is as important as sound quality.

help me decide!
semi
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jmcgrogan2
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You say you haven't decided on speakers yet, but are leaning towards the Ushers. IMHO, I'd look for speakers that are easier to drive, and stick with the Forte 4a. It's in a totally different weight class sonically than the Parasound A21. IMHO, you'd have to spend about $2K on the used market to equal the Forte 4a sonically and aquire more power, it's a real giant killer.

Cheers,
John
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John,

I know what you meant by Forte 4A being a sweet little amp and will take a lot more money to better it. I also like Usher BE-718 a lot, I have owned them over a year even before US started importing them. I am a tube guy, I know all about amp and speaker matching but I am willing to give Usher a try and change amp if I have to.

David
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jmcgrogan2
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David,

Then I would suggest trying a Threshold T200 or T400 to give you more power, with a similar sonic signature to the Forte 4a.

Cheers,
John
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